Ben Reilly: Scarlet Spider Appreciation 2021

[Spiderfan001]

They want Spider-Man on their terms. They feel a mature Spider-Man is not sustainable long-term. I disagree with their assessment but that is the crux of the issue.

But I digress. We don't want to drag the topic of this thread any further off course.

Agreed.
But I would say that a mature Spider-man is the only one sustainable long-term.
Most popular superheroes are always adults, Spider-man just had the rare opportunity to grow up from a teen to adult.Now let's go forward and not backward.

[The Negative Zone]

Hi, excited for Spider-Man Beyond. I've always liked the idea of Ben Reilly and other Spider-people. So I'm reading the Clone Saga for the first time. Compelling stuff! Reading about Ben's origins and perspectives during the original Clone Saga was amazing and then I heavily enjoyed the darker tale of The Lost Years mini too. (The trade collections seem to be collecting these in chronological order instead of published.) This is gonna be expensive but I think I can read all of this.

[Celgress]

Agreed.
But I would say that a mature Spider-man is the only one sustainable long-term.
Most popular superheroes are always adults, Spider-man just had the rare opportunity to grow up from a teen to adult.Now let's go forward and not backward.

One last thing -

This idea is doomed to fail for one simple reason; shared continuity. If Peter existed in his own universe without a large number of other heroes & villains, keeping him in amber could maybe, maybe work. Whenever another Marvel character experiences a personal milestone (marriage, a birthday, has a child, so on and so forth) the shared universe has to change and grow accordingly. Peter can't remain a man-child forever especially not when younger characters such as Miles and Kamala are slowly growing up around him.

[Jman27]

One last thing -

This idea is doomed to fail for one simple reason; shared continuity. If Peter existed in his own universe without a large number of other heroes & villains, keeping him in amber could maybe, maybe work. Whenever another Marvel character experiences a personal milestone (marriage, a birthday, has a child, so on and so forth) the shared universe has to change and grow accordingly. Peter can't remain a man-child forever especially not when younger characters such as Miles and Kamala are slowly growing up around him.

True like franklin Richards is now a teenager I’m unsure on the age but he was born during Peter career. Same with Normie

[Spiderfan001]

One last thing -

This idea is doomed to fail for one simple reason; shared continuity. If Peter existed in his own universe without a large number of other heroes & villains, keeping him in amber could maybe, maybe work. Whenever another Marvel character experiences a personal milestone (marriage, a birthday, has a child, so on and so forth) the shared universe has to change and grow accordingly. Peter can't remain a man-child forever especially not when younger characters such as Miles and Kamala are slowly growing up around him.

Exactly.
And miles is growing up.17 now

[Huntsman Spider]

The 1990s Clone Saga were the first Spider-Man comics I read growing up with Peter and Ben. A most infamous period in Spider-Man history. When Reilly was killed, people wanted him back and there were teases that it might but it didn't come to pass till The Clone Conspiracy by Slott and PAD's Ben Reilly: The Scarlet Spider. I really hated both seeing Reilly as a villain, I'd honestly have preferred him to stay dead. Spider-Geddon offered a brief panel explanation that Ben's factory reset to where he was before, I welcomed that.

Now in unexpected news, Ben Reilly is Spider-Man again in Spider-Man Beyond. I like the new costume but wish it had some more callbacks to his original Spider-Man suit. That's one of the best Spider-Man costumes, I'd say the same about his original Scarlet Spider suit. Like what I've seen of the new costume. I do wish Reilly was wearing the webshooters on the outside though, that's a trademark of the character.

If you look more closely at the concept art for Ben's "Spider-Man Beyond" costume, it does have web-shooters somewhat visible on the insides of his wrists, like in The Amazing Spider-Man films or Insomniac Games' Spider-Man.

[Digifiend]

One last thing -

This idea is doomed to fail for one simple reason; shared continuity. If Peter existed in his own universe without a large number of other heroes & villains, keeping him in amber could maybe, maybe work. Whenever another Marvel character experiences a personal milestone (marriage, a birthday, has a child, so on and so forth) the shared universe has to change and grow accordingly. Peter can't remain a man-child forever especially not when younger characters such as Miles and Kamala are slowly growing up around him.

Yeah, a baby being born means nine months have passed... and Miles's mother and Kamala's sister-in-law have both given birth in the last few years. Even if the pregnancies overlap, that means at least a year has to have passed since Secret Wars.

[Captain Craig]

True like franklin Richards is now a teenager I’m unsure on the age but he was born during Peter career. Same with Normie

And Curt's son...is that Dylan?
Then there is Eddie's son, name escapes me.

In the case of Eddie but especially the FF, if they can have kids and be important in-universe characters and commercially viable then so can Peter.
However, I'm all in for some more Ben as Spider-man. Especially if part of the narrative is to push him as a continual part of the MU, somewhere in some title.

[Celgress]

....Especially if part of the narrative is to push him as a continual part of the MU, somewhere in some title.

This is my hope as well. *crosses fingers*

[Spiderfan001]

And Curt's son...is that Dylan?
Then there is Eddie's son, name escapes me.

In the case of Eddie but especially the FF, if they can have kids and be important in-universe characters and commercially viable then so can Peter.
However, I'm all in for some more Ben as Spider-man. Especially if part of the narrative is to push him as a continual part of the MU, somewhere in some title.

I mean that depends on the next writer after beyond.
This story is more of a last minute placeholder.
I doubt he makes it out of this alive.

[Jman27]

spider-manbeyond_costumedesign.jpg

At least the suit is still red and blue

[Batman Begins 2005]

If you look more closely at the concept art for Ben's "Spider-Man Beyond" costume, it does have web-shooters somewhat visible on the insides of his wrists, like in The Amazing Spider-Man films or Insomniac Games' Spider-Man.

Good catch.

Costume coloured in full:


I like!

[The Negative Zone]

I hope that Mafex makes a toy of the new suit, it seems like a missed opportunity if not.

[Pav]

Hmm.

Peter Parker: Amazing, Spectacular, etc
Miles Morales, the Ultimate Spider-Man
Ock, the Superior Spider-Man

BEN REILLY: SPIDER-MAN BEYOND

Could this be Ben's new long-term status in the Marvel Universe? And if so, what might it mean to be the Spider-Man Beyond?

-Pav, who could see space or interdimensional stuff...

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BEN REILLY: SPIDER-MAN BEYOND

Could this be Ben's new long-term status in the Marvel Universe? And if so, what might it mean to be the Spider-Man Beyond?

-Pav, who could see space or interdimensional stuff...

If they want to make Ben the sole 616-Spider-Man handing dimensional issues, I’m on board. Totally.

I mean, I’m already sold as is, lol.