The Forgotten Ms. Marvel Appreciation 2021

[danielsan52]

I wonder if Sharon and other past FFers will be in the Reckoning War….

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If the actor Mahershala Ali can go from Cottonmouth to Blade, than it stands to reason that
the actress Deborah Ann Woll can go from Karen Page to either Ms. Marvel

or Marvel Girl

in the Marvel Cinematic Universe.

I say BOTH!

Possible given that the actresses Annette Bening and Gemma Chan have portrayed or are about to portray more than 1 marvel character be they supervillain or superhero in the Marvel Cinematic Universe.

[Phoenixx9]

Possible given that the actresses Annette Bening and Gemma Chan have portrayed or are about to portray more than 1 marvel character be they supervillain or superhero in the Marvel Cinematic Universe.

Oh, I believe it is definitely possible. Deborah Ann would make a great Ms Marvel as well as Jean Grey in both looks and personality of each character.

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I'd like it if Marvel Studios comes to the same conclusion regarding Deborah Ann and I will be eager to see if you are proven right with your recommendation.

[Phoenixx9]

Thanks, me too!

Deborah Ann can certainly act, and I think she has that feel for "super" characters and can get into them as an actress.

"Marvel! Are you listening??" lol.

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In the MCU Arishem The Judge instructed the Eternals not to interfere...

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...the same Arishem The Judge who banished the Black Celestial in the comics?

Fantastic Four #340 May 1990
"Double Trouble"
The Fantastic Four, Iron Man, Thor and Gladiator are attempting to destroy the massive weapon
using Galactus to consume the universe in an effort to remove the Time Bubble threatening the future.
Just as they are about to drop a payload of Shi'ar weapons on the
massive construct, the Black Celestial appears before them.
The Black Celestial then uses its power to teleport the weapons into the massive
black hole feeding Galactus, destroying their efforts to stop the destruction.

Just then Gladiator's weapon ship appears before them and the Fantastic Four race to its location.
They rush inside and tell Gladiator what happened.
Before the Black Celestial can turn its attentions to this new arrival,
they activate the warp drive and flee. As they teleport away, Gladiator tells them
that he was delayed because his ship was damaged and he had to make repairs.

Hiding behind the Earth's moon, the group compares notes and Iron Man recalls how
in their own time the Black Celestial was buried in the Diablo Mountain range of California.
With Thor staying behind to help Gladiator complete repairs, the rest of the group
decides to investigate the Black Celestial's domain and are teleported down to Earth.
There Iron Man blasts their way into the Celestial facility where
they begin to search for clues on how to solve the current crisis.
Upon their arrival an army of Deviants begin to materialize out of the walls and attack.
During the fight, Ms. Marvel tries to defend Ben who is without powers, but he is far from helpless
having brought weapons to defend himself with. With the number of their enemies growing,

Ms. Marvel caves in part of the tunnel separating them from their attackers so they can continue their search.

Finding a massive computer, Reed has Sue use her powers to break the main circuit link
so they can access the data banks and learn what they can about the Black Celestial.
When Reed taps into the the databanks of the Deviants who are still monitoring the situation
Reed manages to trick them into revealing all:
They explain how the Black Celestial used to rule over all the Celestials.
However this all ended during the First Host of the Celestials on Earth.
At some point, the Black Celestial committed some unknown transgression of Celestial law
and was banished to eternal slumber beneath the Earth.
However the Black Celestial was far from harmless,
it called out to its creations -- the Deviants -- compelling them
to provide it with the energies it needed to someday awaken.

Story and Art by Walter Simonson.

[Phoenixx9]

In the MCU Arishem The Judge instructed the Eternals not to interfere...

Isn't this the Celestial that Jean Grey blew his thumb off with her Phoenix Force Powers to prevent a judgement? I guess he can grow it back, lol.

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Holy Moley!!!
As the Celestial, Arishem the Judge, is about to give the planet a “thumbs-down” signal,

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Marvel Girl's power joins the synergies of the Rejects, Chosen & Beginagains and, with Cyclops' power to help,

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they BLAST Arishem’s hand with a manifestation of the Phoenix!


Immediately, the Celestials leave, and the Rejects, Chosen & Beginagains rejoice!

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Fantastic Four #341 Jun 1990
"The Ultimate Solution"
The Fantastic Four and their allies Thor and Iron Man have come to a solution
to stop the Time Bubble that is threatening their futures: they must destroy
the future version of Galactus in order to stop him from consuming the universe,
his unyielding hunger being the source of the Time Bubble. Reed recalled their
previous attempt to stop Galactus by feeding him the Black Celestial,
and how it only served to restore the sanity of Galactus for a brief moment.
Making eye contact, Reed believes that Galactus was giving a silent plea to
the Fantastic Four to end his life. This brings Reed to consider his first encounter with
Galactus years earlier in which the Watcher provided them with the Ultimate Nullifier,
a device that was so powerful that it could destroy an entire universe, and thus brought
enough fear into the heart of Galactus that he vowed not to consume the Earth.

Before they could go to the Worldship of Galactus, they get a sudden call from Sue on
the surface of the Earth. She and her brother Johnny had miraculously survived the
destruction of the Celestial's base hidden in the Diablo Mountain Range. Returning to
the Earth's surface in their Time-Sled, they find Sue and she explains that earlier she
was led away form the others and attacked by Johnny. She was able to knock Johnny
out and use her force field to protect them both when the base was destroyed, she
has since kept Johnny trapped in an invisible force field in order to keep herself safe.
When Reed examines Johnny, his only response is to mutter "blue woman" over and over.

Restraining Johnny aboard the Rosebud II, they then have Thor teleport them to the location
of the Worldship of Galactus. Upon entering the ship they are caught in a defense system that
seems more like a trap for pests rather than a real threat. Iron Man easily deactivates the
device with his armor and they are able to land. They then begin searching the massive ship

for the Ultimate Nullifier, with only Reed's recollection of Johnny's account where
he located it for the Watcher. Luck plays out for them when Ben stumbles upon
the Nullifier hidden in plain sight, appearing to be a mere light switch in the wall.
When Reed removes it, suddenly Sue snatches it from him with her invisible force field.

As it turns out, Sue has been possessed by Nebula, the former member of the Council of Cross-Time Kangs
who was seeking the Black Celestial's weapon. She explains how after Reed resisted her mental control,
she took control of Johnny instead. When the others began to become suspicious of Johnny's behavior,
she then lured Sue away from the others, and swapped minds. Reed's
pleas to Nebula go unheard and she tries to activate the Ultimate Nullifier.
Instead of destroying the Fantastic Four, it feeds back and forces Nebula from Sue's body freeing her.

However the Nullifier is trapped in a sphere of nothingness that will destroy any of them upon contact.
Back within her own facilities, Sue uses her powers to pull the Nullifier to safety so that they can use it.

Returning to Galactus, they then have Thor unleash the full fury of Mjolnir, firing enough lightning into
the maw of Galactus that he briefly regains his lucidity. Reed then hands the Ultimate Nullifier over to the
world devourer, and Galactus uses it to destroy himself. With a massive sphere of nothingness expanding
outward, the heroes flee en route to the outside of the Time Bubble. As they traveled outward, Johnny
spots Nebula trapped within the bubble and tries to reach out to her in a panic, but is pulled back by Ben,
as the void seemingly consumes her. As they begin to speed back to their own time, both Iron Man and
Thor are knocked loose and lost in the time stream. The Fantastic Four meanwhile continue
to speed forward and on course, until their Time Sled is shattered and they end up crashing

in the middle of the Four Freedoms Plaza, where they believe they are home.

Story and Art by Walter Simonson.