Jean Grey / Phoenix Appreciation 2021

[Rang10]

When people (including you) have been complaining about Hickman not using hers for almost 2 years, then yeah it should be a big deal.

Well it isn't.

The mpreg stuff is typical Duggan humour. Somehow problematic.

[Omega_DCD]

Quentin was involved too...more Poly hijinks

[MechaJeanix]

All kidding aside I was a bit worried earlier when I read multiple folks on twitter act like Jean had a bad showing or that Jean fans would be melting down. And yet it was a fantastic X-men issue and Jean was handled great. Just goes to show you should be skeptical about what you read on the internet especially twitter

[Rang10]

Guys... about this discussion concerning Jean's actions and the X-Force...

spoilers:

It assumes she's not affected by an external influence. But, apparently, all of them are. https://www.xplainthexmen.com/2021/0...pents-in-eden/ The question is posed at about 26:11 Answer starts at about 26:41, the spoilers come a bit later at 27:53

end of spoilers

Please, if you take this into consideration, be mindful of spoilers.

What he said? This information changes everything about how we see and deal with Krakoa

X-Men are already the New Inhumans by colonizing Mars now. I am pretty sure Arakko will fall out of the window after Hickman. Because thats what he did with Ex Nihilo. Does this make X-Men anything unique nowadays? I highly doubt.

it will fall before, they are the red shirts on the red planet

[CoCoBandz]

All kidding aside I was a bit worried earlier when I read multiple folks on twitter act like Jean had a bad showing or that Jean fans would be melting down. And yet it was a fantastic X-men issue and Jean was handled great. Just goes to show you should be skeptical about what you read on the internet especially twitter

Twitter is the antithesis to all held holy and pure.

[Celestialbodies]

I was impressed with today's issue it was a great exercise in balancing a large cast giving most the cast a purpose while pushing forward the overall goal of the issue.

His voice is very similar to Hickman's but specifically I enjoyed his Jean was she powerful, personable, confident if this is what we're in store for in X-men I'm all aboard.

[Devaishwarya]

I was not at all disappointed. I knew the omegas would be using their powers in tandem but what Duggan and Pepe and Marte came up with was really awesome.

[Kitty&Piotr<3]

Jean-wise, Planet-Size was fine. She actually got to do stuff (successfully!). Like others, I don't really get what was happening with her and Lactuca. I also do not really get the space station thing and what was telepathically happening there. Why not just tell him to make a space station and why is making a space station apparently such an impressive mind-bending concept?

Further in regards to the space station, I'm not sure how big it was supposed to be when she threw it. She is potentially a huge weapon if she is capable of moving a large building.

Anyway, interesting enough issue. Neat to see Jean actually using her superpowers.

[Havok83]

Jean-wise, Planet-Size was fine. She actually got to do stuff (successfully!). Like others, I don't really get what was happening with her and Lactuca. I also do not really get the space station thing and what was telepathically happening there. Why not just tell him to make a space station and why is making a space station apparently such an impressive mind-bending concept?

Further in regards to the space station, I'm not sure how big it was supposed to be when she threw it. She is potentially a huge weapon if she is capable of moving a large building.

Anyway, interesting enough issue. Neat to see Jean actually using her superpowers.

I mean she carried a fallen skyscraper back in X-Factor. Her powers have grown exponentially since then

[Daedra]

Jean-wise, Planet-Size was fine. She actually got to do stuff (successfully!). Like others, I don't really get what was happening with her and Lactuca. I also do not really get the space station thing and what was telepathically happening there. Why not just tell him to make a space station and why is making a space station apparently such an impressive mind-bending concept?

Further in regards to the space station, I'm not sure how big it was supposed to be when she threw it. She is potentially a huge weapon if she is capable of moving a large building.

Anyway, interesting enough issue. Neat to see Jean actually using her superpowers.

A glass of water looks like a lake in the desert….. nice exposure but any tp could have done the job, don’t see why the operation was restricted to omega mutants, to me omega tp is the most boring useless power ever

[Celestialbodies]

Jean-wise, Planet-Size was fine. She actually got to do stuff (successfully!). Like others, I don't really get what was happening to Lactua. I also do not really get the space station thing and what was telepathically happening there. Why not just tell him to make a space station and why is making a space station apparently such an impressive mind-bending concept?

Further in regards to the space station, I'm not sure how big it was supposed to be when she threw it. She is potentially a huge weapon if she is capable of moving a large building.

Anyway, interesting enough issue. Neat to see Jean actually using her superpowers.

When Mags moved the SWORD 1.0 space station Cable said it was a thousand tons we definitely have no way of knowing how big it was when she tossed it. But yeah it's pretty cool how she can easily move such large masses around and at such great speed.

Been awhile since Jean used her Tk on such a scale throwing a space station even that size that fast into space to Mags is impressive.

I mean she carried a fallen skyscraper back in X-Factor. Her powers have grown exponentially since then

Yep!!

Below she's doing so while accounting for the pressures at that depth to holding the tower in place, and protecting herself and Gentle.

--EDIT: I also never noticed before but she may have a second building in place in the far background.

[Daedra]

When Mags moved the SWORD 1.0 space station Cable said it was a thousand tons we definitely have no way of knowing how big it was when she tossed it. But yeah it's pretty cool how she can easily move such large masses around and at such great speed.

Been awhile since Jean used her Tk on such a scale throwing a space station even that size that fast into space to Mags is impressive.

!



Yep!!

Tp used for mpreg and tk used to reposition all sorts of phallic symbols…….there’s a pattern

[Grinning Soul]

The tk stuff...

While the feat was certainly cool, spoilers:

after they changed the core of the planet, according to the data page, the gravity on Mars is still 76% of Earth. So it's easier to lift things there.

end of spoilers

But it's Jean using tk! It's reason to be happy! :)


Now, about the telepathic stuff...

spoilers:

concerning Jamie, as far as I understood, Quentin downloaded the schematics of S.W.O.R.D.'s base and Jean needed to pass that information for Jamie so he could create a new one accordingly. That's not what bothers me. What bothers me is the tone of what she says... - Jean: Well, Jamie, I have an idea... An infectious idea. One that seeds itself deep in your mind and because you cannot help but to create -- to wrap and change reality -- it's idea that I think you'll have to give birth to. Sounds a bit too forceful, no? Like he won't have a choice to refuse to do it...

end of spoilers

Don't you guys think the part I underlined sounds a bit problematic? Honestly question. I'm wondering if I'm being too sensitive here.

[Daedra]

The tk stuff...

While the feat was certainly cool, spoilers:

after they changed the core of the planet, according to the data page, the gravity on Mars is still 76% of Earth. So it's easier to lift things there.

end of spoilers

But it's Jean using tk! It's reason to be happy!


Now, about the telepathic stuff...

spoilers:

concerning Jamie, as far as I understood, Quentin downloaded the schematics of S.W.O.R.D.'s base and Jean needed to pass that information for Jamie so he could create a new one accordingly. That's not what bothers me. What bothers me is the tone of what she says... - Jean: Well, Jamie, I have an idea... An infectious idea. One that seeds itself deep in your mind and because you cannot help but to create -- to wrap and change reality -- it's idea that I think you'll have to give birth to. Sounds a bit too forceful, no? Like he won't have a choice to refuse to do it...

end of spoilers

Don't you guys think the part I underlined sound a bit problematic? Honestly question. I'm wondering if I'm being too sensitive here.

It was mostly unecessary, the writer just wanted to write jamie giving birth cause he thoughts it was funny, I guess

[Omega_DCD]

I'm glad he didn't have Jean needing to be boosted by Hope for anything...btw, I guess it was Quentin who was mind linking Iceman the HF Gala crowd(via Emma on her end), right?