What a perfect and delicious scene.
Absolutely not. Actually, there have been times when I've wanted them to be together because I think their chemistry is off the charts. However, I just don't see there being a strong case indicating that they are together now. A few kisses and suggestive language in a hot tub do not a romantic relationship make, especially when Jean recently referred to herself to Logan as his friend in the example I posted on the previous page.
I'm working on a thread about their friendship and, as I peruse the various examples of it that I've amassed, I'm both touched and reminded of how much I cherish what they have. I have a friendship like that, so, at its core, I understand it. A lot of people jump to conclusions, though, about my own friend and Jean and Logan's.
Last edited by Mercury; 12-16-2021 at 01:43 PM.
The scene above is from "First Night," which covers the first night the X-Men were back under one roof after the first Krakoa mission from Giant-Size X-Men #1. Logan fell in love with Jean because of her kindness, assertiveness, courage, and selflessness. She excited and confused him and made him feel understood.
'Cause of the perception that female characters are treated like shit (And it is there pretty often, not saying it's wrong), so they want the character to not have as many flaws to look awesome, which, it might do so, but depending how it's done, it also might make the character look hella boring, and it's fuckin' hilarious to want Jean to not have flaws when one of the perception is that she's boring 'cause she doesn't have any lol.
I haven't checked out Dungan's X-Men yet so I can't exactly judge but, Jean working with Cyke doesn't exactly mean she's defined by him, to be defined by him, her personality would need to be defined as generally only thinking and talking about him, and not really having a personality outside of that.
Can't say which one is going on 'cause, again, haven't checked yet, but the way you worded there makes it sound like Jean being with Cyke at all defines her as just his wife and not much else lol.
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She could mean sex friends, just sayin' .
Last edited by Lukmendes; 12-16-2021 at 01:48 PM.
No thats not a plotline. The Adventures of Cyclops and Phoenix was a plotline. Jean and Scott struggling with the aftermath of Inferno and its impact on their relationship was a plotline. Them growing apart as individuals leading to the breakdown of their marriage in NXM was a plotline. Them simply being married is not a plot, especially considering not much is done with that as a driving force of any arc. Their marriage was not the emphasis of anything Hickman did. The focus of her in Cable's book was as his mother and she was supporting. Her marriage to Scott wasnt a plotline there
I can say they havent had a storyline as a couple this era, bc they havent. Them having a splash page on a beach together isnt a storyline. The closest thing I can think of is the aftermath of XOS where they decide to start up the X-men together which was a precurser to the current book of X-men where the emphasis is finally on them and not their kids, the QC, Logan, etc... This X-men stuff is the only plotline thats been hers this entire era
Last edited by Havok83; 12-16-2021 at 02:41 PM.
For those of you interested, I'm chronicling Jean and Logan's friendship in a new thread on Twitter, replete with scans of pivotal moments between them.
https://twitter.com/Jean_RED_Grey/st...95610700750851
In other news, the Phoenix Force apparently is now referring to itself as "the firebird" and declares "a Phoenix was meant to go dark." This has got to be a mistake, or I'm simply misreading the scene, lol. Jesus Christ.
https://www.cbr.com/avengers-send-x-...hoenix-asgard/
Thanks for the link Mercury, I'm gonna check it now. I've always been interested in the relationship between Jean and Hank (not in the romantic way tho) and in X-Force I really liked their confrontation. I'm glad she is in X-Men now cause I love her heroics. I wish that her plot with Hank would have been explored a bit more... But, I don't want her in Percy's book now, cause I totally lost interest. These issues about surfing and stuff feels so filler, is going nowhere (when was the last time we see that Peacock Guy? wasn't he supposed to be the villain?).
Logan is just Jean's side dick. It's clear that Jean goes to Scott for her intimate and romantic needs, and Logan just fell in love with Pike.
The fact of the matter is that Percy needs to not touch Jean ever again because all he's interested in her for now is to make Quentin and Logan look better.
"We come into this world alone and we leave the same way. The time we spent in between - time spent alive, sharing, learning together... is all that makes life worth living." - Jean Grey
You're welcome. The Jean-Hank plot could have made for great writing/reading, but I think wanting her to join the fight in X of Swords and found the new team got in the way. In the end, it was probably for the best.
I can't believe you. Ugh!