Jean Grey / Phoenix Appreciation 2021

[Mercury]

I shared my thread on Jean's family with Duggan. Everybody light a candle and pray that he is inspired to bring them up in future issues!

[Mercury]

Also, here are two pieces of art that gripped me today. (On a side note: The Dark Phoenix film is finally available [again?] on Disney Plus, so I'm trying to hurry up and finish some work so that I can snuggle up and watch it tonight. For some reason, considering that it veers so far away from the source material, I really enjoy this film.)

Artist Chris Jones' homage to X-Men: The Animated Series Jean Grey:



A poster for the film Dark Phoenix:

[Daedra]

I shared my thread on Jean's family with Duggan. Everybody light a candle and pray that he is inspired to bring them up in future issues!

I’m renovating my old sacrificial altar as we speak

[Mercury]

I’m renovating my old sacrificial altar as we speak

😂 I'm determined to coax and seduce that man into delving deep into Jean's mythos. He's actually responded to and liked, i.e., hearted, a few of my tweets, so I have cause for hope!

[Daedra]

�� I'm determined to coax and seduce that man into delving deep into Jean's mythos. He's actually responded to and liked, i.e., hearted, a few of my tweets, so I have cause for hope!

[Mercury]

😂🤣😂🤣

Me to Gerry:

[Mercury]

Watching this now… It’s aesthetically pleasing and the score is gorgeous. Sophie Turner is enigmatic and fascinating to watch. She’s quite wonderful. It may be an unpopular opinion, but I prefer Turner’s Jean to Janssen’s. The film manages to transcend the self-imposed limitations that stem from its extreme divergence from the source material.

A poster for the film Dark Phoenix:

[Daedra]

Watching this now… It’s aesthetically pleasing and the score is gorgeous. Sophie Turner is enigmatic and fascinating to watch. She’s quite wonderful. It may be an unpopular opinion, but I prefer Turner’s Jean to Janssen’s. The film manages to transcend the self-imposed limitations that stem from its extreme divergence from the source material.

I can’t even put to words how much I despise BOTH dark phoenix movies

[Mercury]

I can’t even put to words how much I despise BOTH dark phoenix movies

The Last Stand is just… ::shudder::

Dark Phoenix, however, works like an alternate timeline story; that’s how I view it, anyway. It helps that I actually buy Turner as Jean. I can’t say the same about Janssen. However, if I compare it to the actual Dark Phoenix Saga, which I try not to do, it is an abject failure. As a standalone story - a Twilight Zone X-Men story, if you will - it’s utterly fascinating. Gripping, even.

[Rev9]

Watching this now… It’s aesthetically pleasing and the score is gorgeous. Sophie Turner is enigmatic and fascinating to watch. She’s quite wonderful. It may be an unpopular opinion, but I prefer Turner’s Jean to Janssen’s. The film manages to transcend the self-imposed limitations that stem from its extreme divergence from the source material.

No doubt Sophie was better than Famke for me(Janssen wasn't bad but she did not strike me as Jean). For me personally what was a bit rushed was the story.I would have preferred instead of aliens , they introduce Selene as the main villain ,that in primordial time wanted the phoenix force either for herself or saw a prophecy that the Phoenix would be the one entity to destroy her.So you have it revealed that she was pulling Hellfire club strings from the time of the first film.Shaw was just a pawn. You have her own Acolytes that has her either recruiting Magneto or if not have Magneto with his own brotherhood.As they try to get Jean on their side. I think the movie would have to be longer to introduce Selene better and flesh out the dynamic but I'd keep the death of Mystique. Anyway it was still for me better than Last Stand.

[Omega_DCD]

I shared my thread on Jean's family with Duggan. Everybody light a candle and pray that he is inspired to bring them up in future issues!

Adding all of psychic strength to this!

[MechaJeanix]

The Last Stand is just… ::shudder::

Dark Phoenix, however, works like an alternate timeline story; that’s how I view it, anyway. It helps that I actually buy Turner as Jean. I can’t say the same about Janssen. However, if I compare it to the actual Dark Phoenix Saga, which I try not to do, it is an abject failure. As a standalone story - a Twilight Zone X-Men story, if you will - it’s utterly fascinating. Gripping, even.

We differ here because I prefer Famke to Sophie but I do like both actresses. I remember when Famke was first announced so I looked her up on the internet and I was stunned. I didn't think she was going to be a good fit. I found pics from her days on a Bond movie and I couldn't see her being Jean.

When X-men came out I was on a family vacation in Florida and I told my parents we had to find a movie theater to watch X-men. As soon as I heard her voice and saw her... she has been Jean Grey to me. I know she's older now and certainly she could no longer play Jean but when I think of Jean as a real life person I see Famke.

I loved X-men 2 but agree that Last Stand wasn't that great and neither was Dark Phoenix but even those movies I can find something to appreciate.

[Mercury]

No doubt Sophie was better than Famke for me(Janssen wasn't bad but she did not strike me as Jean). For me personally what was a bit rushed was the story.I would have preferred instead of aliens , they introduce Selene as the main villain ,that in primordial time wanted the phoenix force either for herself or saw a prophecy that the Phoenix would be the one entity to destroy her.So you have it revealed that she was pulling Hellfire club strings from the time of the first film.Shaw was just a pawn. You have her own Acolytes that has her either recruiting Magneto or if not have Magneto with his own brotherhood.As they try to get Jean on their side. I think the movie would have to be longer to introduce Selene better and flesh out the dynamic but I'd keep the death of Mystique. Anyway it was still for me better than Last Stand.

I can't help but notice the WandaVision parallels with your idea, but still, it would have made for an interesting take. I do know the intent was two spread this story out over two films, but things changed after the merger. This video gives a fascinating and revealing breakdown of what was originally intended:

Adding all of psychic strength to this!

Yes! 😭🙏🏼😭🙏🏼😭🙏🏼

[Mercury]

We differ here because I prefer Famke to Sophie but I do like both actresses. I remember when Famke was first announced so I looked her up on the internet and I was stunned. I didn't think she was going to be a good fit. I found pics from her days on a Bond movie and I couldn't see her being Jean.

When X-men came out I was on a family vacation in Florida and I told my parents we had to find a movie theater to watch X-men. As soon as I heard her voice and saw her... she has been Jean Grey to me. I know she's older now and certainly she could no longer play Jean but when I think of Jean as a real life person I see Famke.

I loved X-men 2 but agree that Last Stand wasn't that great and neither was Dark Phoenix but even those movies I can find something to appreciate.

This almost hurts to read. Every time I see her as Jean, I am irked. Don't get me wrong, she has her moments here and there, but overall, it's a no for me.

[Kitty&Piotr<3]

I want Marvel to cast a real redhead this time, if they are dumping Sophie.