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    I really hope Dauterman gets to design Jean's next costume.


    Quote Originally Posted by The Agent of Chaos View Post
    LMAO they confused Hope with Jean.
    You already know they had an intern put together those photos
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    Speaking of Jean and Hope. I was having a discussion with someone about Immortal X-Men who theorized that Jean, Hope, and the Phoenix are part of a Holy Trinity.

    The Phoenix = The Mother

    Hope = The Daughter

    Jean = The Holy Spirt

    Jean was literally a Ghost/Spirit in the White Hot room when Hope was born and her father was never revealed. So maybe Jean impregnated Hope’s mother with the power of the Phoenix.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 5cents View Post
    I really hope Dauterman gets to design Jean's next costume.
    I would love it. However, based on liked tweets and my own hunch, I think Larraz is designing it.

    Quote Originally Posted by The Agent of Chaos View Post
    Speaking of Jean and Hope. I was having a discussion with someone about Immortal X-Men who theorized that Jean, Hope, and the Phoenix are part of a Holy Trinity.

    The Phoenix = The Mother

    Hope = The Daughter

    Jean = The Holy Spirt

    Jean was literally a Ghost/Spirit in the White Hot room when Hope was born and her father was never revealed. So maybe Jean impregnated Hope’s mother with the power of the Phoenix.
    Interesting theory. One could say Rachel is also "The Daughter."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mercury View Post
    I would love it. However, based on liked tweets and my own hunch, I think Larraz is designing it.



    Interesting theory. One could say Rachel is also "The Daughter."
    I just realized that would technically make Hope Jean’s daughter. Not a child of an alternate version of Jean or a clone of Jean, her actual (cosmically conceived) daughter.

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    [QUOTE=Grey;5844622]
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    I'm sure most of you have read this entry from the Marvel Encyclopedia: New Edition (2019):



    [/QUOTE

    My blood boils every time i see her entry.

    That has literallly been in every version revision since avx. I can’t believe they won’t remove it.

    It’s a slap in the face to hope, too. Her moment as the mutant messiah credited to someone else. For 10+ years in official merchandise. Shameful.
    Yeah, this is just crazy that no one on staff caught the mistake.

    Also, in the powers section, of this or any of the handbooks, it never states "unlimited potential" or any other term like "Very high level" or anything else to denote this fact. Someone unaware of Jean and her power would not get the feeling that she is the top in terms of power by reading the Powers section.
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    "Jason Aaron should know there is already a winner of the Phoenix Force and his name is Phoenixx9."


    Like a Red Dragon, The Phoenix shall Soar in 2024!

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Agent of Chaos View Post
    LMAO they confused Hope with Jean.
    Lmao one of the reasons as why Hope should have NEVER worn that costume, WPoTC is Jean’s and Jean’s only.

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    I still want the team of X-Men Red to be: Jean, Rachel, Hope, & Madelyne. And then get Greg Land to draw it. lol They will need to wear name badges all the time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Exodus View Post
    I still want the team of X-Men Red to be: Jean, Rachel, Hope, & Madelyne. And then get Greg Land to draw it. lol They will need to wear name badges all the time.
    hahahahah I love this

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mercury View Post
    Interesting theory. One could say Rachel is also "The Daughter."
    Many do, including Claremont with the released 140.5. Rachel is a legitimate child of the Phoenix, Jean, and Scott.

    Quote Originally Posted by The Agent of Chaos View Post
    I just realized that would technically make Hope Jean’s daughter. Not a child of an alternate version of Jean or a clone of Jean, her actual (cosmically conceived) daughter.
    But she's not as she has a human mother. Also wouldn't the Phoenix Force be the Holy Spirit in this? Jean the mother, The PF is the Holy Spirit, and Rachel the daughter?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Starchilde View Post
    hahahahah I love this
    special guest appearance by Mary J. Watson. ;-)

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    Its been 2 years

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    Quote Originally Posted by Askani's Flame View Post
    But she's not as she has a human mother. Also wouldn't the Phoenix Force be the Holy Spirit in this? Jean the mother, The PF is the Holy Spirit, and Rachel the daughter?
    Exactly if there's a holy trinity of pheonix, this is the only one I support

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    [QUOTE=Phoenixx9;5844786]
    Quote Originally Posted by Grey View Post

    Yeah, this is just crazy that no one on staff caught the mistake.

    Also, in the powers section, of this or any of the handbooks, it never states "unlimited potential" or any other term like "Very high level" or anything else to denote this fact. Someone unaware of Jean and her power would not get the feeling that she is the top in terms of power by reading the Powers section.
    "Telepath of virtually unlimited psychic power" is in her headline in this case. But given the Hope gaffe, set expectations accordingly.

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    Its been 2 years

    20211209_134929.jpg
    THAT'a the interview I was thinking of when I asked about the rundown of the variety of Jean-wear in the Krakoan era above. We had the Marvel Girl dress, X-Factor Red post Fall of the Mutants, X-Men Blue Jim Lee suit, and the X-Men:Red Dauterman variant.
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    Quote Originally Posted by andreikes View Post
    Its been 2 years

    20211209_134929.jpg
    Well, seems like its going to be a third year of questions haha

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    Quote Originally Posted by Starchilde View Post
    Well, seems like its going to be a third year of questions haha
    they deserve every questions they get. lol Everybody working at Marvel is complicit in Jean's ugly ass outfit. I write Kevin Feige's instagram.

    #keepupthepressureinternet

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