Jean Grey / Phoenix Appreciation 2021

[Askani's Flame]

I assume that Jean will be linking Magneto, Storm, and Iceman together psionically and having their powers work in tandem. We've seen her do it before, and I think that's the role she'll be playing. Would love some TK stuff, but I'm not sure if she will.

I agree that she'll be using her TP to link Bobby and Ororo during the electrolysis of the water and the current atmosphere to make the changes. But I also think she'll provide some level of tk shielding as well (although Bobby won't need the shield as he doesn't need to breathe in ice form).

[Rang10]

Same its why their issue of X-force was so good to me though he did sort of treat her like a subordinate. However I did enjoy how Jean was stern and confident in her ability to bring Xavier back.

Also I haven't read the issue yet only seen images but I would totally be up for Vita to write Jean, in the one panel posted in the COTA thread Jean and Scott's relationship is more nuanced and reflective of who they are and how they related than anything under Hickman. It feels like she gets them and why their relationship works and I haven't seen any of that in this era.

If people like the typical men are the brain and women are the sensible. I'm oer that kind of chaaracterization, that doesnt help Jean at all

[The92Ghost]

Wait... Where is it stated and or written that they're on another planet?

I posted a few pages back a Twitter tweet from Marvel, which confirms that it will be a new world (but by the way the Twitter post was made it sounded more like they were talking for a planet, not another world like Otherworld for example).

[Micabe]

I posted a few pages back a Twitter tweet from Marvel, which confirms that it will be a new world (but by the way the Twitter post was made it sounded more like they were talking for a planet, not another world like Otherworld for example).

Actually, Otherworld is a dimension interwoven throughout the multiverse -- I meant... A "New World" as in a new Earth-XXX reality or a "New World" as in an entirely different Earth-616 planet to populate?

[Vishop]

Duggan's writing with Jean has been stellar though. His work with her in XoS was my second favorite portrayal of her in this era. Strong, smart, confident and powerful

XoS was a liability for most of what Duggan did with the tournament which wasn't anything more than disappointment. Her role in this event was mostly centered towards "Kid" Cable which was cringe and headcanon in itself. Only the first issue with Duggan was somewhat decent but then the tournament kicked off .....

[Havok83]

XoS was a liability for most of what Duggan did with the tournament which wasn't anything more than disappointment. Her role in this event was mostly centered towards "Kid" Cable which was cringe and headcanon in itself. Only the first issue with Duggan was somewhat decent but then the tournament kicked off .....

and thats all that matters to what I wrote in my post

[Vishop]

and thats all that matters to what I wrote in my post

That's fine. The weight of the other issues doesn't make Jean to be good enough as it is the direction(i.e Xos "tournament") in which Duggan was going. It isn't even close to Percy who concluded her status in X-Force solidly (perhaps the best within HiX era) IMO.

[The92Ghost]

Actually, Otherworld is a dimension interwoven throughout the multiverse -- I meant... A "New World" as in a new Earth-XXX reality or a "New World" as in an entirely different Earth-616 planet to populate?

It is in the canon universe. It is not an alternative one. It will be within the Earth-616 universe.

[Celestialbodies]

It is still just talking, I strongly feel that it is probably indeed that, but I do not want to put too much hope into it and then get disappointed. Me personally, I think that Duggan cannot pull out a terraforming planet... his vision is simply not that vast from what I was reading in his Marauders issues. He seems uninspired and boring to read, which bothers me if he can pull out a terraforming feat for those four. If it were Hickman, I would have probably believed it but still... it is Duggan.

I have to say I agree, I've read Duggan's Avengers and Marauders isn't exactly what I would call great writing, it is serviceable imo but his writing leaves a lot to be desired there's not a lot of nuance in how he uses his cast nor how his stories develop and ultimately unfold. I personally think an issue like this is better suited for someone with big ideas and the ability to think outside the box sort of like Hickman, Ewing, and Wells.

It's called Planet-size and those rocks, colors, and sky seem to allude to Mars/space? There is also a lot of talk of Storm going cosmic.

Omega-gang Magneto, Storm, Iceman, and Jean Grey just scream new mutant technology to me.

I'm incredibly intrigued to see some mutant technology between Magneto, Storm, Iceman, and Jean the whole idea just screams intrigue to me. I just hope we get them at the forefront of the issue, way too often issues like these don't exactly focus on the characters they advertise, I would love to read about them just having amazing conversations, while engaging in the badassery of terraforming a planet. But more importantly why don't we have more issues like this when's the last time we had a selection of senior level X-men just engaging in something badass and planetary changing.

I assume that Jean will be linking Magneto, Storm, and Iceman together psionically and having their powers work in tandem. We've seen her do it before, and I think that's the role she'll be playing. Would love some TK stuff, but I'm not sure if she will.



I really enjoyed what I've seen posted. Vita did a good job with Jean, and brought a lot of warmth and understanding to Jean's dialogue.

I definitely think this is where things are heading and feels exactly like something Duggan would do, Jean links them all together, Magneto creates a planetary EMP, Storm creates a planetary atmosphere, and Iceman provides one of the foundations of live: water


We will be lucky if she actually gets to use her telekinesis.

[Exodus]

I'm afraid we planetary-size Jean Grey fans will be so disappointed in the next months. lol

We're expecting some more omega level feats from Jean (like this GORGEOUS King in Black issue) while Hickman is plotting for supermom and housewives Jean to finally get pregnant, move to Alaska and be entirely codependent with her beloved man Scott.

#OMEGALEVELMOMFANSGETREADY!!!

[andreikes]

I'm afraid we planetary-size Jean Grey fans will be so disappointed in the next months. lol

We're expecting some more omega level feats from Jean (like this GORGEOUS King in Black issue) while Hickman is plotting for supermom and housewives Jean to finally get pregnant, move to Alaska and be entirely codependent with her beloved man Scott.

#OMEGALEVELMOMFANSGETREADY!!!

I expecting a planet called Grey and what Hickman will give me is a pregnancy hahaha

[Rang10]

I'm afraid we planetary-size Jean Grey fans will be so disappointed in the next months. lol

We're expecting some more omega level feats from Jean (like this GORGEOUS King in Black issue) while Hickman is plotting for supermom and housewives Jean to finally get pregnant, move to Alaska and be entirely codependent with her beloved man Scott.

#OMEGALEVELMOMFANSGETREADY!!!

hahhahahah Laughed on this pun.

I think the cover and the rumors makes for a lot of hype, but remember that Jean is not a omega TK. So she probably will be only linking minds while Magneto, Storm and Iceman do their jobs.

[Vishop]

People are taking too literally with the cover that was shown by Duggan. Last Year we were promised to have X of Swords during the pandemic with this Mark Brooks gorgeous cover. But then it turned out to be evil wannabe Emma Frost show that included Duggan. Not to mention Helfire Gala is gonna be rolled with Maruaders including Emma Frost. I am not gonna vouch on all of these "big" events unless it's Hicks being the only writer in this (alongside Ewing maybe) because they are actually pretty good at these.

[Celestialbodies]

Jean on the cover of Planet-Size X-Men #1. Pepe's Jean remains superior, and the costume looks phenomenal here.

I think you're onto something, the Five are the resurrection protocol, The Six are multiversal teleportation system...is the Four planetary terraforming?


I stole the Four idea from the Ororo respect thread and I think this might be purposeful!

[Exodus]

I expecting a planet called Grey and what Hickman will give me is a pregnancy hahaha

Creating life. It's such a miracle!!

New fancy mutant technology on Krakoa: two mutants come together, have sex, and a new baby will be born 40 weeks later!!!!

Scott and and Jean will be called THE TWO!