Raven always stuck me as being very pale-faced, but that might just be because of the cartoon.
Raven always stuck me as being very pale-faced, but that might just be because of the cartoon.
So, to avoid derailing this thread I've replied to all the Raven ones in her own thread. I feel that some of the Cyborg related questions were getting lost:
Have they been on panel together in current continuity. Terrific and Steel feel like no brainers for Cyborg to interact with.
I doubt that Didio's departure had anything to do with how he treated Nightwing. Although his departure has meant that the title is back on track again.
I'm in the same wait-and-see boat as you. If the old regime was in charge I wouldn't even entertain the thought of a Cyborg book but *maybe* the new era will be different. It certainly feels like a weight has been lifted from Dick and Wally's shoulders. We'll see if it's the same for Vic.
He explains it in this video:
Thanks, John Venus
Alright I am going to try to have some fun here, so with Cyborg going the teacher route do we think Victor will get a protege of some kind? Personally, I'm thinking Bratgirl, because we learn in issue one that she uses gadgets a lot and who better at being the fun sci-fi gadget man then Victor himself.
"It's fun and it's cool, so that's all that matters. It's what comics are for, Duh."
Words to live by.
If you mean Babs as Oracle/Batgirl, I can see them bonding over the fact that they both use technology to overcome their respective disabilities. Maybe Cyborg can update the chip she uses to walk.
While that would be cool of Victor, and actually a really nice thing to do for his friend Dick, I mean a new student who goes by Brat-Girl, she is the female member of a group called the Bat-pack because they worship Batman. In the first issue she is stated as using gadgets, and while I’m sure she wants to work with Batman I think it would be interesting if while at the school she strikes up a mentor relationship with Victor.
She’s the girl on the left behind Red X, where she made them look like Bat-ears.
I did consider Stitch and Gorilla Gregg, but Stitch feels more up Raven’s alley as a living doll and well...honestly while I was thinking I felt there would be some seriously wrong racial undertones of putting Victor with a gorilla, no matter how cool a smart talking gorilla may be.
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"It's fun and it's cool, so that's all that matters. It's what comics are for, Duh."
Words to live by.
Steel? It never happened in his book (I have that whole run). Pretty much Cyborg had his own ID issues while Steel had his run as Priest was really telling the story of McDuffie as Steel at the time.
Holt- Black Narcissus works at the Detroit branch of Holt Industries. So you can have a link via her.
More than 3 and it's called a black team and the usual suspects get offended.I don't get why a team can't have more than one Black character on it. We have a bazillion White ones in the JL
Mighty Avengers say HI. And in McDuffie's JLA run-that roster was NOT his choice. Management did.
Even if you did have more than one black person-DEVELOPMENT is still an issue. Especially with certain writers.
I assume the usual suspects are the corporate heads
Lol, hi-tech?? Yeah in the sense that a microwave oven is highly evolved from a toaster. It's still boxy, hideous to look at and wack. Funny coincidence how there was a chance for a long standing black hero to have a semblance of looking and being closer to human while still being powerful and having access to all his abilities, yet there's a distinct need to keep him from looking like all the other humans around him. Let's not pretend there's not a whole racial under tone to the treatment of this particular character.
What do people exactly mean by masculine, though? Isn't thst just a sexist stereotype?
That’s exactly the point. There’s absolutely no plausible reason to downgrade Cyborg from the Walker/Reis design. It was amazing. Suddenly Cyborg becomes an inspiring character and then they strip it all away once they saw people starting to enjoy the character. It’s as if they didn’t want to be bothered with carving out a world around him.
DC’s slogan on the character: “Cyborg. The supremacists choice! He’s there...but just barely.”
I really don't see Cyborg that way at all. If anything it was the opposite. In New Teen Titans 80s comic book series he was kind of a street kid. He rebelled and hanged out in the streets with his best friend Ron. He got into gang fights with white gang members. Vic got cut with a razor. But he saw the error of his ways and began to apply himself in school again. He got a scholarship to college and was selected to become an olympic athlete. When Vic became Cyborg he stopped Ron, who became a leader of of a Black Militant group, from bombing the World Trade Center. This all happen in Tales of the New Teen Titans # 1. In the main series he was still rough around the edges in New Teen Titans 80s comic series. He called Raven a witch, he called Robin short pants etc... I'm sure people would be shocked if they did a faithful adaption of Tales of the New Teen Titans # 1 in the movies or tv.
Also, as far as the Reis design I personally do not see a big difference. The only thing that's different is that his biceps is showing. Otherwise it's basically the same as his current design. In the lastest edition of Batman: Urban Legends Barbara/Batgirl basically turn into a cyborg by weaving cybernetics into her clothes-a track suit with a hoodie. If Cyborg had that design or something similar then I'm sure fans would be satisfied.
Batgirl's new design proves that DC can make improvements to Cyborg if they really wanted to but it's apparent that they don't. After the success of Black Panther I was hopeful that DC would have put into the forefront someone similar but so far they haven't. For a minute I thought that it would be John Stewart after they casted Cyborg aside but John Stewart do not have a unique lore like Black Panther. He's just one of many other Green Lanterns. Cyborg, Vixen or Black Lightning can easily be DC's Black Panther if DC cared enough to develop them further but they don't. Right now the only thing we got is Tim Fox who is more aligned with Miles Morales instead of Black Panther.
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I don't think DC needs a Black Panther. All of these characters should be pushed.
Nor should John Stewart being a Green Lantern limit him.