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    There was plenty of confusion with the quicksilvers at the time. The Captain Americas were told as part of the sprawling franchise that I've already brought up as something DC is unlikely unable to recreate (there's already plenty of exhaustion of it for Marvel). If DC were committed to doing an animated feature about how there's more than one Flash like Spider-verse then sure. I just don't think they are and I don't think we'd actually get Wally. We'd likely get Wallace. DC brass has long held the opinion that Wally and Barry are "too similar" and if you're going to branch out into another set of Flashes they're already kind of pot committed to Jay Garrick, don't need a third white guy at that point.

    Flash's lack of female characters sucks. I guess they'd likely use Jesse or something but I wish Flash could've committed to going forward years ago. I'd love Iris actually heading female, non-white rep in the franchise.

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    People accepted there were two Quicksilvers. Even around AoU, most online commentors were going hard on Wanda being used to bring mutants into the MCU and Magento eventually being revealed as their father.

    Nobody was confused about Tom Holland's Spider-Man being different from Andrew Garfield's Spider-man either.

    Most of the old top brass at DC is gone now. Wally has made solid appearances in JLU, Teen Titans and Young Justice. The new brass is pushing him in the current titles. Claims that the general audience will be confused is bunk, the GA has been dealing with multiple versions of the same character appearing in different media just fine for years now. Plus they're all sick of Barry mucking up timeline in every single appearance. They need something fresh. It all depends on execution at the end. I'm sure Wally will get his shot again either in animation or live action, especially since the fans who grew up reading Waid's run and watching JLU are taking over the reins now.

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    Both Spider-men were Peter Parker, no? Fans are okay with reboots, new actors playing familiar roles. No one is confused by Cavill not being Reeves. That's different from two different characters both being The Flash at the same time. Quicksilver is the closest and, despite how fun he was in the X-men series, Quicksilver wasn't even a major character like The Flash is slated to be. There aren't any Quicksilver led movies after all.

    I'm not talking about comics Top Brass. I'm talking about the executives who tell folks like Didio what to give them and do.

    The general audience, if you're talking about the Flash show with your comment, are die hard Barry fans and would drop the show in a heartbeat at him getting replaced. The general movie going audience honestly probably doesn't care but there'd be some crossover hubbub about them changing who The Flash is for some reason. The main point here is that the general movie going audience doesn't care so why mess around with it? They're not doing take for take adaptations, just loosely inspired superhero movies with the same names as their IP. Barry's name is as good as Wally's for any of that. It's not like that dude in the movie is anything like Barry or Wally in the first place.

    Wally can get his shot in smaller media adaptations infrequently and comics, but I'm fairly certain he'll never get a lead part in a show or a major part in a movie franchise like Barry. He might show up in a supporting role but that is, again, infinitely more likely to be Wallace since Wallace is black. In comics Wally has a much bigger impact and presence than he has anywhere else and that's where he sticks the most -- creators who like the character as comic fans will bring him back. This is not the case in anything live action and much less the case in animated stuff. Wally isn't appearing in any animated movies and he's only in Young Justice because he's Kid Flash in Young Justice, which is a palatable role for him. Even then we're not too far removed from them saying Barry was Kid Flash in the most recent continuity of animated movies -- they were so against Wally they made BARRY into Kid Flash! Going forward I think the animated movies will be like any live adaptation, though. Once YJ has run its course any future Kid Flash stuff will likely be Wallace. They'd much rather have a black character for any minor Kid Flash role they have in the future.

    Don't get me wrong, I'd absolutely love to see more of Wally. I'd love for Wally's actual character arcs and stuff to get adaptations because it's the best content The Flash has ever had. I'm just skeptical of it ever happening. Doesn't fit with what DC has done.
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    We can agree to disagree on this.

    Looking at the current pop culture landscape, I find these arguments claiming that Wally would not work in a big budget adaptation or the audience would not accept him or that his presence would create confusion to be both apocryphal and antiquated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dred View Post
    It is actually embarrassing that Marvel beat DC to a concept like Into the Spider-verse. The Flash franchise would've fit that entire idea a million times over perfectly. An entire legacy/spinoff movie concept. But that kind of harkens to my earlier point about Marvel's movie success being something DC won't be able to replicate.
    If we want to get technical, Sony beat both of them to it.

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