Wally West: The Flash Appreciation 2021

[The Cool Thatguy]

If Sue was not treated like an object, what were her thoughts in the story? What did she do as opposed to what was done to her?

Sue's role in Identity Crisis is textbook fridging, woman as an object writing. You can't have a better example besides bringing up a minor female character, raping them, and killing them, all for the purposes of the story rather than its purpose for her and...to make the man she was romantically involved with suffer. The only way it could be worse is if they also treated her as a sexual object, I suppose, but they already had their hands full with the rest of it.

Minor correction.

In terms of plot reveal, Sue was murdered, revealed as pregnant then raped.

...yeah.

[Jekyll]

Good lord, is this a Wally West thread or a Sue Digby/Identity Crisis thread??

[WallyWestFlash]

Why is the TV show logo on there?

No, Ray isn't a JSA member. He was actually briefly with Young Justice, and was there to commiserate with Superboy and Impulse when their solo books, like his, were cancelled. He actually debuted in his own book in 1992, so Ray's involvement with the Freedom Fighters only came later.

Im talking about the original Ray. The father not the son.

Continuity-wise I think the classic Freedom Fighters were circa-WW2 in Post-Crisis.

Starman's sister was the original Phantom Lady, if I remember right.

Oh cool. Did not know that.

[The Cool Thatguy]

Good lord, is this a Wally West thread or a Sue Digby/Identity Crisis thread??

It's a 'Which Crossover was more offensive in general', spiraling out of Wally's mistreatment in HiC.

Though Wally was a main character in ID Crisis, so it's not so far afield

[Agent Z]

What are people's thoughts on DCAU Wally?

[ducklord]

Good lord, is this a Wally West thread or a Sue Digby/Identity Crisis thread??

Sorry 'bout that. I think this falls under the "It's easier to kvetch about bad things (IC, HiC) then praise things that seem be working well (Wally's emerging status quo)."

Re: Wally - During his brief "powered by Doctor Manhattan" phase, I think it would've been hilarious if he'd taken to running around naked.

[WallyWestFlash]

Heres another one from Jack Herbert.

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[PennyDreadful]

Heres another one from Jack Herbert.

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I like this a whole bunch!

PS: According to the writer, we will see more of Gold Beetle. Can't wait!

[John Venus]

What are people's thoughts on DCAU Wally?

I can't unhear Michael Rosenbaum as Wally West.

I think they did a good job of distilling the horny glory hound from the Mike Baron/William Messer Loebs run and making him charming and entertaining instead of unsavory and unlikable. I'm also glad Wally was the one to introduce the Speed Force in animation and I like his relationship with Hawkgirl and John Stewart and that he became the heart of the team. 'Flash and Substance' is one of the best episodes and a great celebration of the Flash lore.

[Jekyll]

Heres another one from Jack Herbert.

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Wow! The best Jay Garrick that I’ve seen!

[Dred]

What are people's thoughts on DCAU Wally?

Funny but kind of outdated.

[sifighter]

What are people's thoughts on DCAU Wally?

You mean from Justice League Unlimited? Probably my favorite version of the flash.

[Digifiend]

I assume you'll be reading Justice League Infinity then? The comic is a sequel to Unlimited.

[sifighter]

I assume you'll be reading Justice League Infinity then? The comic is a sequel to Unlimited.

In trade most likely, I find tie-in comics are a case by case basis of quality. Sometimes someone has a really good story or original thoughts on the property and other times it can be just a cheap cash grab.

[WallyWestFlash]

I assume you'll be reading Justice League Infinity then? The comic is a sequel to Unlimited.

I liked the show so im picking it up for that but definitely for Wally as well.