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    Quote Originally Posted by darkalamator View Post
    Adrienne as a character was a lame idea... I really never liked her ... she shows a lack a imagination, she is basically a mini villanous Emma with boring powers.
    Adrienne is meant to be a foil to Emma. She’s an even eviler counterpart to Emma. Since unlike Emma, she doesn’t care about mutant children.

    Meanwhile Cordelia, as a counterpart to Emma, in that she doesn’t want to work as hard as her to get what she achieved.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Will Evans View Post
    Looking at Erik and Charles reaction or just using minor telepathy on them during the unveiling, is probably all she needed to verify.
    Magneto was with the helmet and Xavier is Xavier with the Cerebro. And their reaction proves what exactly? For us, that know that Moira is alive and what's her role, we know why they would react that way. If Emma knows about Moira, she doesn't need the provocation or getting any reaction, and would do well to pretend she doesn't know. If she doesn't, it won't mean to her she's alive, let alone her importance.

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    Emma in the alternative cover in May solicits... her ooooold HFC outfit.. please mr artist, do bother and make some research... anyway

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    Quote Originally Posted by Omega Alpha View Post
    If Emma's purpose to name it after Moira was to indicate she knows (which might not), it is stupid. She gains NOTHING by tipping her hand, and risks Xavier, Magneto and Moira retaliating (specially the latter), perhaps even mindwiping her, or killing her off and then removing the information from her in the Cerebro backups, not to mention taking whatever measures they find appropriate. And Emma would not be the first, the second, or probably not even the 10th name any of them would share the information with.

    If, and again it's a big if, Emma knows it, them the only reasonable course would be if she kept completely quiet and have serious safeguards, only revealing it if they moved against her.
    But...
    1: Nothing in the current era of X-Men even suggests that Xavier and Erik would even consider killing her and doing any of the things you are suggesting. Not to a respected sitting QC member and certainly not to Emma.
    2: Nor is Emma the type of established character that will allow either Xavier or Erik to do anything of the sort to her...not unless they want to jeopardise ALL of their plans up to that point. (She is in absolute control of the K-Drugs production and distribution both financially and strategically)
    3: That is not the story HiX-Man and Co. are telling.
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    Emma and Magnus were a couple in New Warriors Sphinx saga for instance

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    Just to make it clear i believe Charles and Erik need Emma way more than she needs them. So it’s absolutely ridiculous to even think they would even attempt to kill her? That just doesnt even sound like a possibility, and even if they do and bring her back im pretty sure Emma is smart enough to gather that information just as quickly as before
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    Quote Originally Posted by Diammandis View Post
    Just to make it clear i believe Charles and Erik need Emma way more than she needs them. So it’s absolutely ridiculous to even think they would even attempt to kill her? That just doesnt even sound like a possibility, and even if they do and bring her back im pretty sure Emma is smart enough to gather that information just as quickly as before
    IKR?

    I'm all for "wild" speculation but...it must still be informed on what's actually written in the books.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Devaishwarya View Post
    But...
    1: Nothing in the current era of X-Men even suggests that Xavier and Erik would even consider killing her and doing any of the things you are suggesting. Not to a respected sitting QC member and certainly not to Emma.
    2: Nor is Emma the type of established character that will allow either Xavier or Erik to do anything of the sort to her...not unless they want to jeopardise ALL of their plans up to that point. (She is in absolute control of the K-Drugs production and distribution both financially and strategically)
    3: That is not the story HiX-Man and Co. are telling.
    1- Nothing suggests that...because Emma never pulled off something as stupid as saying she knows the secret that can unravel the fabric of Krakoa, and hell, could lead to the entire reality dying if the wrong person finds out about Moira, just to show that she can. But Xavier and Magneto pulled off overreactions before over much, much lesser threats and slights, in the latter's case against Emma himself.

    2- What's that about "allow" Xavier or Magneto to do something against her? They are both a lot more powerful than she is. They could mind wipe her, kill her off and have her return without that specific memory in Cerebro, or simply replace her if it comes to it- Xavier is a lot richer than she is, and could have someone take over her position and take over her company even if he really wants to (and he has even less extreme options at his disposal). And again, Emma gains absoutely nothing by tipping her hand. Not one out of the Xavier/Magneto/Moira group has any particular love for her, and they all have gone against people they do have particular love before when it suited them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Diammandis View Post
    Just to make it clear i believe Charles and Erik need Emma way more than she needs them. So it’s absolutely ridiculous to even think they would even attempt to kill her? That just doesnt even sound like a possibility, and even if they do and bring her back im pretty sure Emma is smart enough to gather that information just as quickly as before
    Xavier and Magneto don't need Emma more than they need her, that's pure fanboyism talking. They have more more money, more power in every sense of the word, more respect and love among mutants, more recognition outside Krakoa, and a direct line to Moira, who brings thousands of world experience. Emma is important right now, but nothing she can do can't be done by someone else, and she's not someone that would cause big political damage by leaving or being forced out of Krakoa.

    And we don't know how Emma acquired the information (if she knows), but Xavier could find out and make sure she doesn't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Devaishwarya View Post
    IKR?

    I'm all for "wild" speculation but...it must still be informed on what's actually written in the books.
    Like if we’re being honest Emma is probably one of the most important characters right now in Krakoa, she has a role that is not so easily replaceable so if the trio were to get rid of Emma, someone who is going to be in charge of handling the drugs that give Krakoa its legitimacy, no matter how long they take her out for someone would need to step in for her duties and finding someone with her similar knowledge and business expertise and influence in short notice is difficult to do.
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    And again..we don't know if that's exactly what's at play here. So...

    It makes no sense carrying on as if it's a forgone conclusion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Diammandis View Post
    Like if we’re being honest Emma is probably one of the most important characters right now in Krakoa, she has a role that is not so easily replaceable so if the trio were to get rid of Emma, someone who is going to be in charge of handling the drugs that give Krakoa its legitimacy, no matter how long they take her out for someone would need to step in for her duties and finding someone with her similar knowledge and business expertise and influence in short notice is difficult to do.
    Exactatiously.
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    Like at the end of the day you can debate Emmas role or whatever but i really just dont see Charles and Erik trying to harm Emma or take her out, it just doesnt seem like a plausible outcome for whatever is going on
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    Quote Originally Posted by Diammandis View Post
    Like if we’re being honest Emma is probably one of the most important characters right now in Krakoa, she has a role that is not so easily replaceable so if the trio were to get rid of Emma, someone who is going to be in charge of handling the drugs that give Krakoa its legitimacy, no matter how long they take her out for someone would need to step in for her duties and finding someone with her similar knowledge and business expertise and influence in short notice is difficult to do.
    I think X-Corp could, especially Warren

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    @Diammandis

    From HoX/PoX to now....No it absolutely doesn't.
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