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    Quote Originally Posted by John Venus View Post
    "Make Themyscira Great Again"?
    Alkyone sucks, but she doesn't suck that much. She has some standards.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John Venus View Post
    "Make Themyscira Great Again"?
    She just wants to build an invisible barrier against man's world to protect them from the rapists (like Heracles) and make them pay for it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John Venus View Post
    "Make Themyscira Great Again"?
    Nobody's done more for women than she has with the possible exception of The Presence, after all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mutant God View Post
    She just wants to build an invisible barrier against man's world to protect them from the rapists (like Heracles) and make them pay for it.
    Shouldn't she be as or more concerned, with protecting us from Azzarello Hera the baby-killer, who turns Amazons into snakes, ..or with Circe, who hates Amazons for no conceivable reason? Besides, ..since the Amazons forgave Hercules, who fought beside them, against Circe in WOGS, and being confident in Queen Hippolyta's judgment, ..I'm okay, with him. That's usually where the 'cancel Hercules' thing runs out of gas.

    Aren't we really leaving Hercules out because he's a powerful man, who knows and expresses his power, and, even when that benefits Diana, the Amazons and mankind, that makes him a threat or affront to Wonder Woman, somehow? Hercules doesn't know his place; so, out he goes?

    It feels uneven. If it is uneven, shouldn't we say so?

    Are we holding Hercules accountable, because he's a man, ..while forgiving the super-villainesses, because they're female, for doing far worse? This presumption that reason and accountability is too prickly a thing, for weighing the actions of women, ..is troublesome for the most feminist of my sensibilities.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mel Dyer View Post
    Shouldn't she be as or more concerned, with protecting us from Azzarello Hera the baby-killer, who turns Amazons into snakes, ..or with Circe, who hates Amazons for no conceivable reason? Besides, ..since the Amazons forgave Hercules, who fought beside them, against Circe in WOGS, and being confident in Queen Hippolyta's judgment, ..I'm okay, with him. That's usually where the 'cancel Hercules' thing runs out of gas.

    Aren't we really leaving Hercules out because he's a powerful man, who knows and expresses his power, and, even when that benefits Diana, the Amazons and mankind, that makes him a threat or affront to Wonder Woman, somehow? Hercules doesn't know his place; so, out he goes?

    It feels uneven. If it is uneven, shouldn't we say so?

    Are we holding Hercules accountable, because he's a man, ..while forgiving the super-villainesses, because they're female, for doing far worse? This presumption that reason and accountability is too prickly a thing, for weighing the actions of women, ..is troublesome for the most feminist of my sensibilities.
    By that point Hercules was a villain again and even tried to rape Diana herself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gaius View Post


    I’m digging Psycho’s role and characterization in the current run, even if I really enjoy Perez’s unnerving version of him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WonderScott View Post
    I’m digging Psycho’s role and characterization in the current run, even if I really enjoy Perez’s unnerving version of him.
    Hopefully more of the villains from the group shot show up in the run (save for Max and LL obviously )

    I liked Perez's Psycho though it made me wish he just revamped a few more of WW's pre-Crisis rogues.

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    I don't dislike Liar Liar, even if she was obviously included just to sink Lords hooks into the Wonder Woman mythos. But I didn't like Wonder Woman fighting a teenage kid (although she didn't really "fight" her)... especially since it lasted for so long, should have been 2 issues max honestly.

    But I think part of it was editorial making Takami drag it out since Future State was on the horizon.

    If they bring Liar Liar back, she should be a Wonder Girl villain. Cassie or Yara, either works.

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    I'm wondering how they are going to bring other villains into the story arc...since none besides Psycho and the gods are known for astral projection...

    Circe I could see doing it rather easily. Cheetah...maybe because she's a demi-god she figures it out?

    Giganta, no way would she figure that out, lol, I doubt she'd care about the Sphere of the Gods anyway. Same with Silver Swan, unless Psycho himself drags her with him (he still made her Silver Swan in this universe.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by I'm a Fish View Post
    I don't dislike Liar Liar, even if she was obviously included just to sink Lords hooks into the Wonder Woman mythos. But I didn't like Wonder Woman fighting a teenage kid (although she didn't really "fight" her)... especially since it lasted for so long, should have been 2 issues max honestly.

    But I think part of it was editorial making Takami drag it out since Future State was on the horizon.

    If they bring Liar Liar back, she should be a Wonder Girl villain. Cassie or Yara, either works.

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    I'm wondering how they are going to bring other villains into the story arc...since none besides Psycho and the gods are known for astral projection...

    Circe I could see doing it rather easily. Cheetah...maybe because she's a demi-god she figures it out?

    Giganta, no way would she figure that out, lol, I doubt she'd care about the Sphere of the Gods anyway. Same with Silver Swan, unless Psycho himself drags her with him (he still made her Silver Swan in this universe.)
    I'm open to being surprised but I don't think we'll much more 'till after the Sphere of the Gods stuff is wrapped up.

    Here's hoping for Gundra at least in the next issue at least.


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    Yes, Gundra for this story arc plz. (I would also like for her to be a reoccurring villain if it is her...)

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