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    Quote Originally Posted by Vordan View Post
    Conner for sure, definitely think that story will play a role in his return. Wally I’m less sure of, feel like it’s been too long for him to come back now. If Conner does end up getting married and the Legion makes it so he can age, maybe he’ll end the Season by becoming Superman like Kaldur took over for Arthur?
    I agree but I'll still hold out hope for Wally. The Phantoms theme could easily apply to him as well. Conner being able to age and becoming the next Superman with Clark raising Jon is totally something I see Weisman pulling off. Nightwing and some of the others have pointed out how much like big blue Conner has become. It might be some forshadowing and his being able to age and maybe being at full power can complete that arc of his story.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SuperX View Post
    If they replace body parts he will look like cyborg superman (hank Henshaw) don't know if I'm cool with thst, he isn't really the character for thst.

    If he comes out fixed and improved I can see him aging and either get full kryptonian powers or latent genomorph TTK abilities.

    If he gets healed but not changed I see a flight ring in his future.

    Asking for super specs is probably asking for a lot from Weissman.

    We all thought he was beating the **** out of someone from the trailer with all thst blood, but it was actually his. The guy really did show his heroism there, lowest power level, then getting a lava bath, and getting a bomb blown up in your face and to top it off, with kryptonite in it. Guy was hit with everything jeez.

    And you know the person who ignited the bomb made sure kryptonite was in it, so they were gunning for Kon also.

    So OK everyone take a shot at who you think the mystery bad guy is who ignited the bomb? Im saying Conner and Megan's future kid (for some reason).

    Hopefully and as a wish list kon comes back with his aging fixed, emerging kryptonian powers, plus emerging latent genomorph TTK, plus a cool new super suit, but keep the black and red S shield and his hair short and messy(Jon's is long and messy)
    The mystery bomber clearly targeted Conner and I believe Conner may have been the client the Legion was trying to protect. Could that guy be their kid? Maybe. You had what appeared to be heat beam damages which could only have been done with somebody with at least microvision and heat vision possibly. When he looked at Conner, he could have been using telescopic sight to zoom in on him when he was squinting. This is all in my mind anyways. Didn't see anything from M'gann but he could have used invisibility or phasing. If he was their child or a descendant, why try to kill them? Another interesting thing are the types of powers Saturn Girl, Chameleon Boy, and Phantom Girl possess. All powers the Martians have. Maybe what we're seeing is the beginning of the United Planets with Mgann and Conner as progenitors of some future races.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 13th Superman View Post
    I agree but I'll still hold out hope for Wally. The Phantoms theme could easily apply to him as well. Conner being able to age and becoming the next Superman with Clark raising Jon is totally something I see Weisman pulling off. Nightwing and some of the others have pointed out how much like big blue Conner has become. It might be some forshadowing and his being able to age and maybe being at full power can complete that arc of his story.
    But then if they do allow him to age an even make him Superman they'll need something to visual distinguish him from Clark. This is why I really could see them making him Cyborg Superman or at the very least leaving him scared up even after he's healed because of the kryptonite.

    You could do some cool themes with physical rehabilitation by sticking him with Victor, and having him rehab Conner. And now that he's public you can have the public label him "Cyborg Superman". This would also play into the idea that Conner was always allowed to walk around the world freely unlike other genomorphs because of how he looked, so now with augmentations that he can't hide he's gotta deal with that side of things and that would also link him with Miss Martian's themes too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Superlad93 View Post
    But then if they do allow him to age an even make him Superman they'll need something to visual distinguish him from Clark. This is why I really could see them making him Cyborg Superman or at the very least leaving him scared up even after he's healed because of the kryptonite.

    You could do some cool themes with physical rehabilitation by sticking him with Victor, and having him rehab Conner. And now that he's public you can have the public label him "Cyborg Superman". This would also play into the idea that Conner was always allowed to walk around the world freely unlike other genomorphs because of how he looked, so now with augmentations that he can't hide he's gotta deal with that side of things and that would also link him with Miss Martian's themes too.
    It's an interesting idea but that's something I'd rather it stick with Hank Henshaw instead of mix and matching with Conner. I do think that scar over his eye brow will become permanent and serve as a reminder as well as a visual distinction from Clark if he ages. It'd look badass and is a good marker of change that we so often see in manga characters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Superlad93 View Post
    But then if they do allow him to age an even make him Superman they'll need something to visual distinguish him from Clark. This is why I really could see them making him Cyborg Superman or at the very least leaving him scared up even after he's healed because of the kryptonite.

    You could do some cool themes with physical rehabilitation by sticking him with Victor, and having him rehab Conner. And now that he's public you can have the public label him "Cyborg Superman". This would also play into the idea that Conner was always allowed to walk around the world freely unlike other genomorphs because of how he looked, so now with augmentations that he can't hide he's gotta deal with that side of things and that would also link him with Miss Martian's themes too.

    You want visual distinction, howabout TTK, yeah is actual power.
    Or he has no spit curl, short and messy hair
    Wears a black and red S shield
    Fingerless gloves, leather jacket
    And yeah having thst scar above his eye stay would be cool.
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    Bringing back wally undoes the lesson in acceptance of loss and dealing with grief. Honestly before last season. I expected wally to come out of the speed force especially since Artemis at 18 decided to never love again like most young woman do……

    As for superboy this weird man doesn’t see Connor as incomplete. After last season he has begun to embrace himself. Pairing him with a being who also will not age, due to her transforming abilities seemed fitting. I don’t know what’s the purpose of this fake out. They don’t have the balls to kill Connor, and the legion despite saying they won’t interfere was the clear giveaway. Perhaps he will be the superboy/man in the future beyond Clark and Jon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SuperX View Post
    You want visual distinction, howabout TTK, yeah is actual power.
    Or he has no spit curl, short and messy hair
    Wears a black and red S shield
    Fingerless gloves, leather jacket
    And yeah having thst scar above his eye stay would be cool.
    It's pretty well documented that Wisemen doesn't like or want to use TTK, so I'll assume that's not coming.

    I'll be rooting for either scars or cybernetics. Similar to how Match is also this world's Bizarro, Roy Harper clone is Guardian, and Zatara is Doctor Fate, this show isn't scared to bend the rules a bit and consolidate characters and ideas together if it works thematically. Conner and Cyborg Superman are both direct products of Reign, and they're both characters that are designed to look like Clark. I don't think it's much of a leap to think there's a strong possiblity that the same creative team that made Match Bizarro, Roy Guardian, and Zatara Doctor Fate would make Superboy this world's version of Cyborg Superman.
    "Mark my words! This drill will open a hole in the universe. And that hole will become a path for those that follow after us. The dreams of those who have fallen. The hopes of those who will follow. Those two sets of dreams weave together into a double helix, drilling a path towards tomorrow. THAT's Tengen Toppa! THAT'S Gurren Lagann! MY DRILL IS THE DRILL THAT CREATES THE HEAVENS!" - The Digger

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    Quote Originally Posted by Superlad93 View Post
    It's pretty well documented that Wisemen doesn't like or want to use TTK, so I'll assume that's not coming.

    I'll be rooting for either scars or cybernetics. Similar to how Match is also this world's Bizarro, Roy Harper clone is Guardian, and Zatara is Doctor Fate, this show isn't scared to bend the rules a bit and consolidate characters and ideas together if it works thematically. Conner and Cyborg Superman are both direct products of Reign, and they're both characters that are designed to look like Clark. I don't think it's much of a leap to think there's a strong possiblity that the same creative team that made Match Bizarro, Roy Guardian, and Zatara Doctor Fate would make Superboy this world's version of Cyborg Superman.

    Well I'll be over here hoping for the best for the character, and hoping he comes back better than when last saw him or atleast better than just a character to pity afterward.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rac7d* View Post
    Bringing back wally undoes the lesson in acceptance of loss and dealing with grief. Honestly before last season. I expected wally to come out of the speed force especially since Artemis at 18 decided to never love again like most young woman do……
    To be honest I don't think that's worth what they lost by taking Wally away, but that's just me.
    As for superboy this weird man doesn’t see Connor as incomplete. After last season he has begun to embrace himself. Pairing him with a being who also will not age, due to her transforming abilities seemed fitting. I don’t know what’s the purpose of this fake out. They don’t have the balls to kill Connor, and the legion despite saying they won’t interfere was the clear giveaway. Perhaps he will be the superboy/man in the future beyond Clark and Jon.
    There's a 99% certainty the Legion saved him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frontier View Post
    To be honest I don't think that's worth what they lost by taking Wally away, but that's just me.

    There's a 99% certainty the Legion saved him.
    which is super cheesy. Season 3 went out its way to set a tone that people could get hurt, on screen and violently. These heroes do a dangerous job and I definitely am not about murder porn or even Invincible level of carnage, but I can respect the choice of Wally "dying" This isnt a game what they do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frontier View Post
    There's a 99% certainty the Legion saved him.
    Yeah. We know Imra was hiding her psychic signature from Megan. That would explain why Megan could no longer sense Conner.
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    I think superboy on YJ will be saved by the Legion, then somehow "fixed" this could be judt the injuries, or his age, or powers. Either way if he comes back he is coming back with a flight ring.

    Superboy on Titans was given many dumb excuses why he couldn't do things in seconds, thst would take others forever, or much harder,but maybe next season, when magic comes to the show they will use magic as the excuse for keeping him sidelined ugh, so either way he is getting sidelined.

    Superboy in the comics needs a limited series to put him on "any" path to his future. There are so many stumbles they have had since he has been back he really needs it.between his history being forgotten, or his physical well being he has a lot thst can be straightened out. Plus it would be nice to get a hero name change, use both of his powersets, and build his supporting world back up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SuperX View Post
    I think superboy on YJ will be saved by the Legion, then somehow "fixed" this could be judt the injuries, or his age, or powers. Either way if he comes back he is coming back with a flight ring.

    Superboy on Titans was given many dumb excuses why he couldn't do things in seconds, thst would take others forever, or much harder,but maybe next season, when magic comes to the show they will use magic as the excuse for keeping him sidelined ugh, so either way he is getting sidelined.

    Superboy in the comics needs a limited series to put him on "any" path to his future. There are so many stumbles they have had since he has been back he really needs it.between his history being forgotten, or his physical well being he has a lot thst can be straightened out. Plus it would be nice to get a hero name change, use both of his powersets, and build his supporting world back up.
    Do you think they're going to change him by making him fully human or fully Kryptonian? I have a feeling he's not going to return as the same Kon
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    Quote Originally Posted by 9th. View Post
    Do you think they're going to change him by making him fully human or fully Kryptonian? I have a feeling he's not going to return as the same Kon
    Fully Kryptonian is what I expect. That or he’ll be given some tech like the Legion ring to bring him up to the level of a full blooded Kryptonian. Like the patches without the addiction.
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