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    Quote Originally Posted by Flash Gordon View Post
    Didn't care for any of the world of PAD's AQUAMAN or its lore. I much prefer a heavy sci fi Aquaman mythos, not the sword and sandals stuff.

    The stuff with Dolphin was horrid. Glad to see it in our rearview mirror, with some decades between.
    Make room on that hill for me, brother. I'm dying on it with you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MarFarr View Post
    That was totally a tribute to the "Face it, tiger!" scene, wasn't it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MarFarr View Post
    The PAD era was awful in all terms except for world building.
    Arthur was made to look like some middle aged man going after a teen(dolphin).
    Mera was mostly a no show, they brought her back when they realized what a disaster they made.
    Dolphin wasn't a teenager in PAD's run and his relationship with Dolphin was never going to last.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flash Gordon View Post
    Didn't care for any of the world of PAD's AQUAMAN or its lore. I much prefer a heavy sci fi Aquaman mythos, not the sword and sandals stuff.
    There was plenty of science fiction in PAD. It was more science fantasy than sword and sandal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Z View Post
    Dolphin wasn't a teenager in PAD's run and his relationship with Dolphin was never going to last.
    PAD intended to replace Mera from the very beginning, when the sales dropped he was forced to bring Mera back and Arthur was old enough to be Dolphin's father.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MarFarr View Post
    PAD intended to replace Mera from the very beginning, when the sales dropped he was forced to bring Mera back and Arthur was old enough to be Dolphin's father.
    She still wasn't a teenager. She was about Garth's age and he wasn't a teen either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Z View Post
    She still wasn't a teenager. She was about Garth's age and he wasn't a teen either.
    19 years makes you still a teen, whatever her age it was ridiculous and even more how their story ended in just two panels. PAD maimed Aquaman as few others, no wonder nobody followed on what he left. No wonder why DC had to resort to various reboots of the character after PAD until Johns appeared.
    PAD Aquaman seemed like the soap operas of the 80's Dallas and Dynasty, with a son coming out from nowhere, who tries to overthrow his father, that father dated a girl who could be his daughter, who leaves him for a younger man, he also has an ex crazy wife and son who lives with her.

    Since this is a Mera thread, PAD wasn't even able to see what potential Mera had.

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    That's a great looking Mera .

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    Quote Originally Posted by MarFarr View Post
    19 years makes you still a teen, whatever her age it was ridiculous and even more how their story ended in just two panels. PAD maimed Aquaman as few others, no wonder nobody followed on what he left. No wonder why DC had to resort to various reboots of the character after PAD until Johns appeared.
    PAD Aquaman seemed like the soap operas of the 80's Dallas and Dynasty, with a son coming out from nowhere, who tries to overthrow his father, that father dated a girl who could be his daughter, who leaves him for a younger man, he also has an ex crazy wife and son who lives with her.

    Since this is a Mera thread, PAD wasn't even able to see what potential Mera had.
    Where was her age even stated?

    Later writers not following up on what PAD did is not a mark against his run. DC has rebooted and retconned multiple beloved and iconic stories simply because they could. They did it with Perez and Rucka's Wonder Woman, with Cassandra Cain, with everything about Wally West. PAD was the reason anyone in the 90s even gave a damn about Aquaman and the character would have languished as a joke and relic from the Silver Age if not for him. Hell, he introduced the first main character of color into the Aquaman mythos years before Lorena and Jackson showed up so getting rid of everything he did isn't without its own unfortunate implications.

    He brought Mera back eventually and there was nothing about his run that needed to be tossed out. Johns pretty much followed the same formula as David, the only major difference is he used Mera and other characters he was interested in instead of utilizing the rest of the cast. It's not as if Mera had anything interesting going for her at the time of the 90s. She's only an interesting character because of Johns.

    Quote Originally Posted by MarFarr View Post
    PAD intended to replace Mera from the very beginning, when the sales dropped he was forced to bring Mera back and Arthur was old enough to be Dolphin's father.

    Also, where was this ever stated?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Z View Post
    She still wasn't a teenager. She was about Garth's age and he wasn't a teen either.
    Ah, glad she was just as old as his surrogate son who she later married. Not creepy at all to be dating someone your kid's age.

    Quote Originally Posted by MarFarr View Post
    Well-drawn as that scene is, considering how much she hated being referred to as Aquawoman, I really didn't enjoy her putting the costume on. Glad that thread dropped in Rebirth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robanker View Post
    Ah, glad she was just as old as his surrogate son who she later married. Not creepy at all to be dating someone your kid's age.



    Well-drawn as that scene is, considering how much she hated being referred to as Aquawoman, I really didn't enjoy her putting the costume on. Glad that thread dropped in Rebirth.
    Garth was never adopted by Arthur. This isn't Bruce/Barbara we are talking about here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Z View Post
    Garth was never adopted by Arthur. This isn't Bruce/Barbara we are talking about here.
    Damn, all those silver-age Aquaman stories where he was his sidekick and Garth thought of him like a dad really must have been a fever dream of mine. It's gross, dude. PAD's run did nobody any favors.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robanker View Post
    Damn, all those silver-age Aquaman stories where he was his sidekick and Garth thought of him like a dad really must have been a fever dream of mine.
    Again, Garth was never Arthur's son. I am not exactly a Dolphin/Arthur shipper but this situation is not a Bruce/Barbara thing.


    PAD's run did nobody any favors.
    That is objectively not true. Regardless of your feelings about the run, it's the reason DC continued to see Aquaman as a viable comic IP well into the 21st Century.

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