I think there has been, and still is to an extent, impression that there is a triangle between Batman, Ra's and Talia. And it diminishes Talia, she is often seen as a prize - something that Bruce can "win" and something that Ra's can "offer" to Bruce. It does play to the old power fantasy of hero travelling to some exotic country and finding a hot princess. Now, you might argue that this ain't really the case because X and Y happened in one storyline or another, but I'm pretty sure that this is how majority of casual fans see Talia.
I always thought that one of the goals for Morrison was to create a new status quo for Talia. Damian fundamentally alters her relationship with Bruce and to me Batman Inc. was mostly about her stepping out of her father's shadow. In the end her father is imprisoned and Bruce is defeated, she loses only due to betrayal. Understandably not everyone loved this and I feel like DC took few steps back when they brought her back, but looking at what is going now I feel like they are slowly pushing her in that direction again. Ra's can stay as Batman's villain, but Talia is above him.
It is so strange to me. I feel like Damian is the best new character to debut in decades, but I utterly loathe the way Morrison writes the Al Ghuls. I find his Damian to be one of my least preferred (under stand how strange that is since GM created him) and his Talia was so one-dimensional. I really expected Morisson to end every issue she was in with her sitting somewhere and going "Bwahahahaha." The skull mask he had her in was also ridiculous. IMO.Damian fundamentally alters her relationship with Bruce and to me Batman Inc. was mostly about her stepping out of her father's shadow. In the end her father is imprisoned and Bruce is defeated, she loses only due to betrayal. Understandably not everyone loved this and I feel like DC took few steps back when they brought her back,
I was so thankful DC didn't allow that to be the end for the character. Considering her potential nuanced dynamic with Damian (quite a few other writers are capable of displaying this) I think Talia still brings a lot to the franchise.
I see Talia eventually viewing Bruce as just one of her "dalliances." When she is through with a guy, she does have a "let them eat cake" outlook. Especially with the way she described "the detective" in the recent Totality discussion. The only thing worthwhile about Bruce, is Damian.
Thinking about Talia... her life is suck =_= I just remember her fight with Seline, she said "When I give my first step my father didn't cry of happiness, he give me a sword and said 'fight'" or something like this, so bad =__=, Damian had this life for 10 years, but she had all her life... maybe Bruce showing up really changes Talia in a way she couldn't imagine... she always talked about Bruce for Damian as a amazing man because she believes that, why would she talk so much good things for Damian and keeps Bruce's cowl if she doesn't?
Just caught up on the first two issues of the new series. Pure fun! The art is just perfect and I love the whole goofy “you only get to die three times” set up, a few intriguing new characters and some fave existing characters (Ravager, Vic). Can’t wait for issue 3!
Damian return to Gotham or a Flashback? I see buildings here.
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They've really screwed over Talia just to make other characters look better in comparison.
Like we've said before, Talia is Slut-Shamed while Bruce is a Role model, yet they've both been through a fair share of lovers.
The thing with Talia and Jason still makes me cringe - I don't even know if it's counted as canon anymore but I lost a little respect for both characters. I put it out of my mind until I saw a meme this morning.
That's why Jason's the Rebound Robin in my mind
Bruce lost Dick as Robin - Jason's your boi
Talia can't have Bruce - How about Jason as your boi toy?
Kori broke up with Dick - Jaybird to the rescue
Babs and Dick Break Up - Jason as Obi-Wan "Hello There!"
Last edited by Shen; 06-17-2021 at 09:46 PM.
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