Damian Wayne Robin Appreciation 2021

[dietrich]

And that is why he sucks. If he doesn't want to raise kids he should stop taking them under his wing.

Agreed but sadly real life writers keep giving kids to a character who hasn't had a place in his world for a kid since the late 80's.

[Godlike13]

And that is why he sucks. If he doesn't want to raise kids he should stop taking them under his wing.

He never wanted Damian. Damian wasn’t meant to be something he wanted, but a nightmare situation. He did alright with Dick, Jason went sideways, but the rest were thrust at him.

[CPSparkles]

Aww, this story was nice. I loved how they explained Damian's Dilemma of being both Wayne and Al'Ghul. I would've preferred this for his 13th birthday than Bruce being too busy Again.

That gift tho XD

It put a smile on my face.

[Light of Justice]

He never wanted Damian. Damian wasn’t meant to be something he wanted, but a nightmare situation. He did alright with Dick, Jason went sideways, but the rest were thrust at him.

If Bruce never wanted Damian, he will not bring him back from Apocalypse.

[Light of Justice]

Come on guys, Alfred is worse than Bruce when it come to Damian. When has Alfred ever been a parental figure to Damian? Never.

When has Alfred gone out of his way to do what was detrimental to Damian? Lots of times.

Dick raised Damian not Alfred.

Alfred gaslighted Damian, sent him away when he was 10 and endangered him unnecessarily during City of bane

Alfred is not that bad. While indeed what happened when Bruce got amnesic is bad (and whatever happened on Teen Titans but I'd like to believe that it never happened), but so far Alfred has been a quite good adult for Damian.

Bruce gave Damian Titus with "Damian has Issues and the dog maybe will do some good for him" in mind. Alfred gave Damian Alfred the Cat with "This cat reminds me of Damian and I think Damian will be happy to meet him" in mind. We can see which one made him happy and which one made him angry at first.
He gave Damian haircuts in RSOB.
Alfred's role of parenting in Supersons are maybe more than Bruce's.
He accompanied Damian on his thirteen's birthday.

I don't understand your point on endangered him unnecessarily during City of bane. He signaled Batman so Batman can attack Bane without any worry for his life. It's not his fault that Batman chose to send his 13 years old boy alone instead. Besides, before his death he also begged Bane not for his life, but for not killing him in front of Damian.

[Godlike13]

If Bruce never wanted Damian, he will not bring him back from Apocalypse.

Just because he didn't want Damian, doesn't mean he wants him dead. He's come to love him, as he can. But Damian was not something Bruce set out to create or be responsible for. Damian was created as a means to try and control him. He was born to conquer the world and raised by evil. Nothing about Damian's situation is what Bruce wanted. He was created to be Bruce's worst nightmare.

[Rac7d*]

Just because he didn't want Damian, doesn't mean he wants him dead. He's come to love him, as he can. But Damian was not something Bruce set out to create or be responsible for. Damian was created as a means to try and control him. He was born to conquer the world and raised by evil. Nothing about Damian's situation is what Bruce wanted. He was created to be Bruce's worst nightmare.

You guys are being unnecessarily harsh. Bruce loves that boy, he’s literally gone further for him the any of his other children

[Jackalope89]

You guys are being unnecessarily harsh. Bruce loves that boy, he’s literally gone further for him the any of his other children

Including tricking Jason (right after Jason offered his help to Bruce) to go back to the very place Jason died. To force Jason to relive the trauma he went through so that Bruce could "find some clue" or whatever.

[the1&onlyE.]

Just because he didn't want Damian, doesn't mean he wants him dead. He's come to love him, as he can. But Damian was not something Bruce set out to create or be responsible for. Damian was created as a means to try and control him. He was born to conquer the world and raised by evil. Nothing about Damian's situation is what Bruce wanted. He was created to be Bruce's worst nightmare.

This is true, but only regarding the first few years of Morrison's run. Bruce and Damian's reationship has evolved a lot, and the reason they are not getting along right is because when they wanted to villainize Damian, the first thing they did was destroy their reationship, which hasn't been fixed yet. They do love each other and I hate when people downpay their relationship like this. We're in 2021, not 2011.

[Shen]

This is true, but only regarding the first few years of Morrison's run. Bruce and Damian's reationship has evolved a lot, and the reason they are not getting along right is because when they wanted to villainize Damian, the first thing they did was destroy their reationship, which hasn't been fixed yet. They do love each other and I hate when people downpay their relationship like this. We're in 2021, not 2011.

Yeah, same. Even though he had no desire for a child, he eventually did for Damian exactly what he did for all his other kids - gave him a home.

It's sometimes difficult for Bruce because - well, he's Bruce, but that doesn't mean he doesn't care for Damian. And the same can be said for the little shit. They just suck at emotions and they're both too proud.

[Light of Justice]

Yeah, same. Even though he had no desire for a child, he eventually did for Damian exactly what he did for all his other kids - gave him a home.

It's sometimes difficult for Bruce because - well, he's Bruce, but that doesn't mean he doesn't care for Damian. And the same can be said for the little shit. They just suck at emotions and they're both too proud.

I recall someone described their relationship as "when 10 years old Bruce meets forever 8 years old Bruce"

[dietrich]

Godlike wasn't downplaying Damian and bruce's relationship nor were they being harsh.
Just spitting facts.

The debate is why does bruce keep taking kids under his wing/bring them into his world if he doesn't take responsibility.
Bruce didn't choose to bring Damian into his world. talia, Alfred and Dick did. Bruce returned and couldn't let him go.

Bruce loves Damian that's obvious but unlike Dick and Jason, Bruce wasn't the one who brought him into the Bat crime fighting World initially.

[dietrich]

Yeah, same. Even though he had no desire for a child, he eventually did for Damian exactly what he did for all his other kids - gave him a home.

It's sometimes difficult for Bruce because - well, he's Bruce, but that doesn't mean he doesn't care for Damian. And the same can be said for the little shit. They just suck at emotions and they're both too proud.

Not only that he accepted Damian for himself regardless of blood [demonstrated by him burning the DNA results in Batman v Deathstroke]

[Godlike13]

Godlike wasn't downplaying Damian and bruce's relationship nor were they being harsh.
Just spitting facts.

The debate is why does bruce keep taking kids under his wing/bring them into his world if he doesn't take responsibility.
Bruce didn't choose to bring Damian into his world. talia, Alfred and Dick did. Bruce returned and couldn't let him go.

Bruce loves Damian that's obvious but unlike Dick and Jason, Bruce wasn't the one who brought him into the Bat crime fighting World initially.

Exactly, thank you. Bruce didn’t want a 10 year old son he didn’t know existed, nor is Damian the ideal kind of son he would want or wanted. The kind of kid Bruce wants is like Dick, not an even more extreme little version of himself with a broken sense of morals. Bruce loves Damian, but he wasn’t prepared for him and quite frankly still isn’t. He might never be. But that’s part of the point of Damian. Even 10 years later. As much as Bruce loves Damian, and has come to accept Damian as he can, the very nature of Damian presents and remains a challenge for Bruce. Which is the intent behind Damian. And it’s not something they are going to resolve anything time soon.

[Rac7d*]

Godlike wasn't downplaying Damian and bruce's relationship nor were they being harsh.
Just spitting facts.

The debate is why does bruce keep taking kids under his wing/bring them into his world if he doesn't take responsibility.
Bruce didn't choose to bring Damian into his world. talia, Alfred and Dick did. Bruce returned and couldn't let him go.

Bruce loves Damian that's obvious but unlike Dick and Jason, Bruce wasn't the one who brought him into the Bat crime fighting World initially.

I think it’s very much harsh to call
A chil unwanted but sure. If the debate is why can he no refuse the other kids, they don’t really him a choice. They start on their own and if he doesn’t help they could die