Damian Wayne Robin Appreciation 2021

[Blue22]

Eh. Even back when the sight of Jon didn't fill me with dread, I hated those two going to school together. That will never not feel forced as hell (especially when they were in the same class, which made zero sense). They're great together but that's the part of their civilian lives that should just be...separate.

Two bros at college. Heck even bring back that one girl from Battle for the Cowl. The one that Damian manage to woo with the Batmobile, then died to Killer Croc.

Nooooooooooooooooo nononononononono. The less we acknowledge that story, the better. Damian wasn't the only one that it fucked over.

[Jackalope89]

You know what, yeah.

I'm down with Jon and Damian college adventures.
Damian is more than enough to get into college.

Two bros at college. Heck even bring back that one girl from Battle for the Cowl. The one that Damian manage to woo with the Batmobile, then died to Killer Croc.

My opinion of fake Jon aside; Battle for the Cowl only did Dick Grayson any good. Pretty much all other characters were pretty badly butchered in it.

[garazza]

Eh. Even back when the sight of Jon didn't fill me with dread, I hated those two going to school together. That will never not feel forced as hell. They're great together but that's the part of their civilian lives that should just be...separate.



Nooooooooooooooooo nononononononono. The less we acknowledge that story, the better. Damian wasn't the only one that it fucked over.

Ooooooo, we actually disagree on something about our boys. There's something about them going to school together that just works in the exact same way that originally pairing them together just worked. It's something that didn't need to happen, but when they did it, it seemed like a no-brainer. My one issue was that they weren't in the same class given that they were different ages, but if DC hadn't put themselves into a corner by explicitly stated their ages, that wouldn't have happened, but I digress.

My favorite parts of Tim and Bart's solo books were seeing their schools and friend groups/supporting casts. Having Tim and Bart go to the same school, while convenient for the development of their friendship, would be very unnecessary and actually hinder them because by the very nature of their characters they are their own things and shouldn't be intermingled like that, with Young Justice being the best possible place for them co-exist. Even though Damian was created several years before Jon, their being paired together as the Super Sons elevated both characters to new heights they wouldn't have achieved on their own. A lot of people welcomed Jon into Damian's supporting cast because Damian as a character had grown and developed under the supervision of Tomasi and Gleason to the point he was ready to open himself up and start making new friends. Jon, on the other hand, was a brand new character, but without a solo book to help develop his character like Tim or Bart had, he would eventually become another Chris Kent. Luckily, before his sheen had worn off, he was quickly paired with Damian who would both serve as his civilian friend like Tim and Bart's school friends did and his costumed friend like what Young Justice was to each other.

Together, Super Sons the book acted as both the Robin and Impluse solo book and Young Justice team book. Damian didn't have a solo at the time but was at the height of his popularity and Jon had a lot going for him but he couldn't stay a Superman supporting character forever. Putting them together was the best possible thing for either character and them going to the same school was the just natural progression of that premise. Tim and Bart were friends, but did they seem like school friends? Not really. Jon and Damian, on the other hand, had such great chemistry that they seemed like they went to school together, but actually weren't, so DC decided to pull the trigger and take that extra step.

[adrikito]

by Jorge Jimenez

AWESOME... Comic?

Heck even bring back that one girl from Battle for the Cowl. The one that Damian manage to woo with the Batmobile, then died to Killer Croc.

What?? Really? Which issue?

Nooooooooooooooooo nononononononono. The less we acknowledge that story, the better. Damian wasn't the only one that it fucked over.

I wanted to see that girl but this sounds really bad

[Blue22]

Ooooooo, we actually disagree on something about our boys. There's something about them going to school together that just works in the exact same way that originally pairing them together just worked. It's something that didn't need to happen, but when they did it, it seemed like a no-brainer. My one issue was that they weren't in the same class given that they were different ages, but if DC hadn't put themselves into a corner by explicitly stated their ages, that wouldn't have happened, but I digress.

My favorite parts of Tim and Bart's solo books were seeing their schools and friend groups/supporting casts. Having Tim and Bart go to the same school, while convenient for the development of their friendship, would be very unnecessary and actually hinder them because by the very nature of their characters they are their own things and shouldn't be intermingled like that, with Young Justice being the best possible place for them co-exist. Even though Damian was created several years before Jon, their being paired together as the Super Sons elevated both characters to new heights they wouldn't have achieved on their own. A lot of people welcomed Jon into Damian's supporting cast because Damian as a character had grown and developed under the supervision of Tomasi and Gleason to the point he was ready to open himself up and start making new friends. Jon, on the other hand, was a brand new character, but without a solo book to help develop his character like Tim or Bart had, he would eventually become another Chris Kent. Luckily, before his sheen had worn off, he was quickly paired with Damian who would both serve as his civilian friend like Tim and Bart's school friends did and his costumed friend like what Young Justice was to each other.

Together, Super Sons the book acted as both the Robin and Impluse solo book and Young Justice team book. Damian didn't have a solo at the time but was at the height of his popularity and Jon had a lot going for him but he couldn't stay a Superman supporting character forever. Putting them together was the best possible thing for either character and them going to the same school was the just natural progression of that premise. Tim and Bart were friends, but did they seem like school friends? Not really. Jon and Damian, on the other hand, had such great chemistry that they seemed like they went to school together, but actually weren't, so DC decided to pull the trigger and take that extra step.

That's a pretty good way of looking at it, but it just didn't click with me. Even by their standards, it felt really silly and contrived. I like the idea of Jon forming a supporting cast in school but I felt like Damian didn't need to be there. In fact, I feel like Damian being there ran the risk of hindering Jon's growth. Especially since, back then, a common complaint about Jon (that I did sort of agree with) was that he was always attached to either Clark or Damian, rather than doing anything on his own (if only I knew the price we'd have to pay for him to have a solo outing). Showing him in school and interacting with teachers and classmates was a great way to start him on the road to gaining his own agency and sense of self but...Damian just shouldn't have been a part of that. At least that's how I felt about it.

Plus, Damian being in grade school already felt utterly pointless when he's probably more educated than every teacher there. I get that it was also to help him socialize with normal kids his age, but I feel like Bruce should have known that would be a lost cause. Low and behold, it was. Even in the confines of the Super Sons stories, his short stint in school was nothing but a waste of time. There weren't even any hints that it would be anything more than an annoyance for him. He's just not that type of kid. And that's okay. That's how I like my Bat-son lol

[Fergus]

That's a pretty good way of looking at it, but it just didn't click with me. Even by their standards, it felt really silly and contrived. I like the idea of Jon forming a supporting cast in school but I felt like Damian didn't need to be there. In fact, I feel like Damian being there ran the risk of hindering Jon's growth. Especially since, back then, a common complaint about Jon (that I did sort of agree with) was that he was always attached to either Clark or Damian, rather than doing anything on his own (if only I knew the price we'd have to pay for him to have a solo outing). Showing him in school and interacting with teachers and classmates was a great way to start him on the road to gaining his own agency and sense of self but...Damian just shouldn't have been a part of that. At least that's how I felt about it.

Plus, Damian being in grade school already felt utterly pointless when he's probably more educated than every teacher there. I get that it was also to help him socialize with normal kids his age, but I feel like Bruce should have known that would be a lost cause. Low and behold, it was. Even in the confines of the Super Sons stories, his short stint in school was nothing but a waste of time. There weren't even any hints that it would be anything more than an annoyance for him. He's just not that type of kid. And that's okay. That's how I like my Bat-son lol

Bruce made it clear that he wasn't enrolling Damian in school to learn the curriculum rather to socialise with other kids and learn social norms

[Fergus]

by Jorge Jimenez

I'm loving the new suit more and more

[Fergus]

Pretty sure it is.

This is awesome.

[adrikito]

I'm loving the new suit more and more

The same happens with me.

I hope see him with this suit during some years.

[dietrich]

The same happens with me.

I hope see him with this suit during some years.

Me too. I love the new suit. I know the Robin colours are iconic but I've never liked the colour combination

I hope Damian keeps this new suit and tim can keep the iconic colours

[dietrich]

by Jorge Jimenez

I love his Damian

[adrikito]

Me too. I love the new suit. I know the Robin colours are iconic but I've never liked the colour combination

I hope Damian keeps this new suit and tim can keep the iconic colours

Same. I love this suit too much to want to return to Rebirth or any previous Robin costume.

Tim can keep them.

[Restingvoice]

Same. I love this suit too much to want to return to Rebirth or any previous Robin costume.

Tim can keep them.

It also has the added benefit of no longer debating which one of them wears the color Green anymore

[Fergus]

New Royal mail Robin stamp



The collection features
Batman
Nightwing
Babsgirl
Batwoman
Alfred
Robin Damian and iconic villians such as Catwoman, Joker, Penguin and Harley

[adrikito]

It also has the added benefit of no longer debating which one of them wears the color Green anymore

That too...

Before Robin serie their costumes were.. NOT THE SAME but similar.

That is not the case anymore.