Tony Stark: The Invincible Iron Man Appreciation 2021

[Marvell2100]

Tony Stark's 9 cruelest acts. The Civil War stuff has been beaten to death, but what do you guys think about the other things?
https://www.cbr.com/marvel-comics-ir...cruelest-acts/

Just another crappy list in a line of crappy isht they love to do about Tony. They just want eyes on their list and what better way than to talk about Tony(which has been done to infinity and beyond).

[Tony Stark]

It's dumb, based on distortions and lies.

This is even dumber.
https://www.cbr.com/batman-villains-...-beat-lose-to/
Bane couldn't beat Iron Man even if Iron Man just stood there and let him break his own fists punching Iron Man.
Mister Freeze's whole shtick isn't as powerful as The Mandarin's absolute zero cold ring, and that's just one of the rings deals with in a few panels every time he and the Mandarin fight.

In total agreement.I think Tony would be able to beat Deathstroke as well. Both list were misguided to say the least.

[Jabare]

I guess we got the answer to the question who would win Ironman or a Gorilla

[Huntsman Spider]

Tony Stark's 9 cruelest acts. The Civil War stuff has been beaten to death, but what do you guys think about the other things?
https://www.cbr.com/marvel-comics-ir...cruelest-acts/

Considering that just about every major superhero (and even some minor ones) in the Marvel Universe has done incredibly cruel, messed-up things at one point or another, even if the context behind those acts would turn them into more necessary evils (at the time) as opposed to cruelty for cruelty's sake, what makes Tony Stark so special? Granted, as a Spider-Man fan, I'm still somewhat sour over Iron Man convincing Spidey to publicly reveal himself, which set the stage for the atrocity that was and is One More Day, but in retrospect, Peter Parker was (and is) also a grown man who could (in-universe) make his own decisions, so . . .

Of course, Iron Man is in an almost-unparalleled position of leadership, trust, authority, and even respect within the Marvel Universe, despite how (some) writers and fans treat him at times, so his mistakes and misdeeds, such as they are, do cast a greater shadow than those of many or most other superheroes. Furthermore, it does fit an overall pattern of depicting him as the pragmatic, sometimes coldblooded futurist who's willing and able to go to extremes for the sake of the greater good because he sees the big picture that others can't or won't.

[Marvell2100]

Considering that just about every major superhero (and even some minor ones) in the Marvel Universe has done incredibly cruel, messed-up things at one point or another, even if the context behind those acts would turn them into more necessary evils (at the time) as opposed to cruelty for cruelty's sake, what makes Tony Stark so special? Granted, as a Spider-Man fan, I'm still somewhat sour over Iron Man convincing Spidey to publicly reveal himself, which set the stage for the atrocity that was and is One More Day, but in retrospect, Peter Parker was (and is) also a grown man who could (in-universe) make his own decisions, so . . .

Of course, Iron Man is in an almost-unparalleled position of leadership, trust, authority, and even respect within the Marvel Universe, despite how (some) writers and fans treat him at times, so his mistakes and misdeeds, such as they are, do cast a greater shadow than those of many or most other superheroes. Furthermore, it does fit an overall pattern of depicting him as the pragmatic, sometimes coldblooded futurist who's willing and able to go to extremes for the sake of the greater good because he sees the big picture that others can't or won't.

Exactly. But hey let's just focus on Tony and all the bad things he's done. And let's not put any emphasis on the fact that some pf these, he didn't do alone, he had help from some other heroes.

[Huntsman Spider]

Exactly. But hey let's just focus on Tony and all the bad things he's done. And let's not put any emphasis on the fact that some pf these, he didn't do alone, he had help from some other heroes.

Like his stints with the Illuminati, for example. It wasn't like he was doing all that by himself, even with the (vast) resources he already had at his disposal.

[Tony Stark]

Of course, Iron Man is in an almost-unparalleled position of leadership, trust, authority, and even respect within the Marvel Universe, despite how (some) writers and fans treat him at times, so his mistakes and misdeeds, such as they are, do cast a greater shadow than those of many or most other superheroes. Furthermore, it does fit an overall pattern of depicting him as the pragmatic, sometimes coldblooded futurist who's willing and able to go to extremes for the sake of the greater good because he sees the big picture that others can't or won't.

Beautifully stated. Quoted for truth.

[Huntsman Spider]

Beautifully stated. Quoted for truth.

Thanks. That means a lot.

[stingray]

I love Tony, but I really don't like the way he's treated Hank Pym for the last several years. Talk about writers treating I.M. unfairly, but Tony dealt with Hank's mental illness terribly. He bullied and mocked him. Maybe now that he's being treated in the same way, he can try and see if there's anything left of Hank inside of Pymtron and actually do something to help him. I hope so.

[Tony Stark]

I love Tony, but I really don't like the way he's treated Hank Pym for the last several years. Talk about writers treating I.M. unfairly, but Tony dealt with Hank's mental illness terribly. He bullied and mocked him. Maybe now that he's being treated in the same way, he can try and see if there's anything left of Hank inside of Pymtron and actually do something to help him. I hope so.

He treated Pymtron bad because he was Pymtron. He was literally killing people. Tony himself has always suffered from depression in the comics and PTSD in the movies. He has had his own mental ailments to deal with.

[stingray]

He treated Pymtron bad because he was Pymtron. He was literally killing people. Tony himself has always suffered from depression in the comics and PTSD in the movies. He has had his own mental ailments to deal with.

What about all the other times he and the other heroes treated him with a complete lack of respect when he was still himself? In Dan Slott's Mighty Avengers, instead of offering Hank his support when he formed the new team, he told him not to screw it up. Nice way to treat a guy recovering from a breakdown.

[Huntsman Spider]

I love Tony, but I really don't like the way he's treated Hank Pym for the last several years. Talk about writers treating I.M. unfairly, but Tony dealt with Hank's mental illness terribly. He bullied and mocked him. Maybe now that he's being treated in the same way, he can try and see if there's anything left of Hank inside of Pymtron and actually do something to help him. I hope so.

He treated Pymtron bad because he was Pymtron. He was literally killing people. Tony himself has always suffered from depression in the comics and PTSD in the movies. He has had his own mental ailments to deal with.

What about all the other times he and the other heroes treated him with a complete lack of respect when he was still himself? In Dan Slott's Mighty Avengers, instead of offering Hank his support when he formed the new team, he told him not to screw it up. Nice way to treat a guy recovering from a breakdown.

The sad thing is that for all we know, there's nothing really left of Hank Pym in "Pymtron," and Pymtron just wears (half of) his face and speaks in his voice to mock the Avengers. Given the state of Hank Pym's soul as of the ending of Infinity Countdown (which was a prelude to Infinity Wars) . . . That said, yeah, there is room to argue that the Avengers aren't that good at helping each other when they fall on rough times, physically or psychologically. They'll band together in a world/galaxy/universe(s)-threatening crisis, sure, but actually helping recover from an emotional, nervous, or flat-out psychotic breakdown? Not so much.

[MichaelC]

What about all the other times he and the other heroes treated him with a complete lack of respect when he was still himself? In Dan Slott's Mighty Avengers, instead of offering Hank his support when he formed the new team, he told him not to screw it up. Nice way to treat a guy recovering from a breakdown.

Stark's brain was literally melting at the time from some stuff that would eventually render him almost braindead, something Pym noticed and commented on, albeit without understanding the source.

[Huntsman Spider]

Stark's brain was literally melting at the time from some stuff that would eventually render him almost braindead, something Pym noticed and commented on, albeit without understanding the source.

Deleting the hero registration files that he'd used Extremis to store inside his own brain so Norman Osborn couldn't get at them, right?

[Tony Stark]

What about all the other times he and the other heroes treated him with a complete lack of respect when he was still himself? In Dan Slott's Mighty Avengers, instead of offering Hank his support when he formed the new team, he told him not to screw it up. Nice way to treat a guy recovering from a breakdown.

That time in Slott’s run you are right. Tony was acting like an *******, but Pymtron was Pymtron.