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    Quote Originally Posted by Thor-Ul View Post
    Carol should be always the oldest. I mean, at least to keep Joe , and his relation with Carol, consistent. Meanwhile being the older, the fact than Joe doesn't want to help her with her education comes from his machism. Normaly, parents help the older sibling, so he can help the next son and so, because economic realities make difficult for them help the next one. And Joe choosing not helping this way to Carol (if she is the older) comes from his idea than that help would be a bad inversion, because in his mind Carol would marry, drop her carrer and any effort put on her education would be lost. The point in that way, and that was something Claremont put an effort on, it was than Carol was as an hardhead as Joe and she was the one who most resembled him, which made their relationship more complicated.

    But making Carol the younger, well, that motivation was discarded for being "Joe was an docuhbage, because". And every positive quality of Carol comes just from her mother.
    While I agree with you, but to play devil’s advocate, we’re over 40 years from when Joe was introduced in the 1970s. With the sliding time scale, a lot of Joe’s behavior in Carol’s origin looked at today is going to make him look like pure douche than how he was a male chauvinist in the 70s.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frontier View Post
    Well, there's virtually anyone she could be.
    Moonstone maybe?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marvell2100 View Post
    Moonstone maybe?
    I mean, maybe? Visually I've always seen Moonstone as evil Carol but I guess that's Star now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Will Evans View Post
    While I agree with you, but to play devil’s advocate, we’re over 40 years from when Joe was introduced in the 1970s. With the sliding time scale, a lot of Joe’s behavior in Carol’s origin looked at today is going to make him look like pure douche than how he was a male chauvinist in the 70s.
    Like with the sliding time scale Carols was raised at least in the 90s than the 60s.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Marvell2100 View Post
    Moonstone maybe?
    Is race-lifting a villain from white to black really such a good idea?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Digifiend View Post
    Is race-lifting a villain from white to black really such a good idea?
    Kang will be Black you know. Mordu, Catwoman, Electro.

    I don't know if Carol has any Black female villains unless they are creating someone new.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marvell2100 View Post
    Kang will be Black you know. Mordu, Catwoman, Electro.

    I don't know if Carol has any Black female villains unless they are creating someone new.
    Grace Valentine is one

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marvell2100 View Post
    Kang will be Black you know. Mordu, Catwoman, Electro.

    I don't know if Carol has any Black female villains unless they are creating someone new.
    Ghost too (and a gender-flip).

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    Moonstone's plot is to impersonate Carol so i don't think it's her.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AndersonHoran View Post
    Moonstone's plot is to impersonate Carol so i don't think it's her.
    In the latest comics yeah but we know that the MCU doesn't follow the playbook to the letter.

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    I was thinking about Deathbird or Cru because i want a space-focused movie but with Kamala in it they might focus on earth (i hope not).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marvell2100 View Post
    In the latest comics yeah but we know that the MCU doesn't follow the playbook to the letter.
    But that's the whole point of her joining the Thunderbolts which eventually they're going to do in the MCU, we'll see.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AndersonHoran View Post
    But that's the whole point of her joining the Thunderbolts which eventually they're going to do in the MCU, we'll see.
    That still wouldn't stop Moonstone from joining the Thunderbolts in the future. They may just be taking a different route. In the original Thunderbolts, Moonstone wasn't impersonating Carol. That didn't happen until years later under Norman's Dark Avengers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frontier View Post
    I mean, maybe? Visually I've always seen Moonstone as evil Carol but I guess that's Star now.
    We'll see how long that lasts. Star is basically ping-ponging at this point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marvell2100 View Post
    That still wouldn't stop Moonstone from joining the Thunderbolts in the future. They may just be taking a different route. In the original Thunderbolts, Moonstone wasn't impersonating Carol. That didn't happen until years later under Norman's Dark Avengers.
    Yeah, i meant related to Carol.

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