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    Rachel will be in Excalibur #18

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    Quote Originally Posted by askani_son View Post
    I am quite tired of the sexual subject on Rachel, it seems that she has to be a lesbian yes or yes, if they ask me I would say no, but I am quite tired on this subject.
    It’s 2021 everybody is either lesbian or gay
    Ommadon: “By summoning all the dark powers I will infest the spirit of man So that he uses his science and logic to destroy himself. Greed and avarice shall prevail, and those who do not hear my words shall pay the price. I'll teach man to use his machines, I'll show him what distorted science can give birth to. I'll teach him to fly like a fairy, and I'll give him the ultimate answer to all his science can ask. And the world will be free for my magic again.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daedra View Post
    It’s 2021 everybody is either lesbian or gay
    The thing is, given that Rachel has definitively been shown to be attracted to men and her being attracted to women is subtext, turning her lesbian would be bi-erasure and I really, really hope Leah Williams doesn't do that because I'm certain she understands that would affect a lot of Rachel's fans personally (nobody likes being told what you are doesn't exist). Plus, it would really diminish the tragedy of Rachel's love story with Franklin Richards.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drexelhand View Post
    The thing is, given that Rachel has definitively been shown to be attracted to men and her being attracted to women is subtext, turning her lesbian would be bi-erasure and I really, really hope Leah Williams doesn't do that because I'm certain she understands that would affect a lot of Rachel's fans personally (nobody likes being told what you are doesn't exist). Plus, it would really diminish the tragedy of Rachel's love story with Franklin Richards.
    I agree and that’s another reason I hate the franklin richards retcon
    Ommadon: “By summoning all the dark powers I will infest the spirit of man So that he uses his science and logic to destroy himself. Greed and avarice shall prevail, and those who do not hear my words shall pay the price. I'll teach man to use his machines, I'll show him what distorted science can give birth to. I'll teach him to fly like a fairy, and I'll give him the ultimate answer to all his science can ask. And the world will be free for my magic again.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daedra View Post
    I agree and that’s another reason I hate the franklin richards retcon
    Oh yeah, I really felt like that one devalued Rachel's origin as well. I mean, look at this panel:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daedra View Post
    I agree and that’s another reason I hate the franklin richards retcon
    It's Marvel's fault for having him as a toddler for 30+ years.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Drexelhand View Post
    Oh yeah, I really felt like that one devalued Rachel's origin as well. I mean, look at this panel:

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    My favourite panel from that issue was rachel and franklin finally meeting in the clouds above new york city and kissing
    Ommadon: “By summoning all the dark powers I will infest the spirit of man So that he uses his science and logic to destroy himself. Greed and avarice shall prevail, and those who do not hear my words shall pay the price. I'll teach man to use his machines, I'll show him what distorted science can give birth to. I'll teach him to fly like a fairy, and I'll give him the ultimate answer to all his science can ask. And the world will be free for my magic again.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daedra View Post
    My favourite panel from that issue was rachel and franklin finally meeting in the clouds above new york city and kissing
    Excellent choice. Art Adams is truly a legend...





    However, my favorite panel will always be the first meeting between mother & daughter:


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    Quote Originally Posted by K7P5V View Post
    Excellent choice. Art Adams is truly a legend...




    However, my favorite panel will always be the first meeting between mother & daughter:

    Aaaaah, I had been waiting for that moment to happen for soo long, so much drama
    Ommadon: “By summoning all the dark powers I will infest the spirit of man So that he uses his science and logic to destroy himself. Greed and avarice shall prevail, and those who do not hear my words shall pay the price. I'll teach man to use his machines, I'll show him what distorted science can give birth to. I'll teach him to fly like a fairy, and I'll give him the ultimate answer to all his science can ask. And the world will be free for my magic again.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daedra View Post
    Aaaaah, I had been waiting for that moment to happen for soo long, so much drama
    Me too. And when Scott found out, I couldn't contain myself (LOL):


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    The melodrama was so...ugh!

    Of course they love him more than you Rachel...by Scott's own admission, they had no effin' clue who you were and what they meant to you... until that very moment. "rolls eyes"
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    Quote Originally Posted by rhaenylis View Post
    Rachel will be in Excalibur #18
    Marcus To gives good Rachel Prestige...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thirteen View Post
    Marcus To gives good Rachel Prestige...
    I hate the name Prestige
    Ommadon: “By summoning all the dark powers I will infest the spirit of man So that he uses his science and logic to destroy himself. Greed and avarice shall prevail, and those who do not hear my words shall pay the price. I'll teach man to use his machines, I'll show him what distorted science can give birth to. I'll teach him to fly like a fairy, and I'll give him the ultimate answer to all his science can ask. And the world will be free for my magic again.”

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    Reminds me of a stage magician.
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    "Jason Aaron should know there is already a winner of the Phoenix Force and his name is Phoenixx9."


    Like a Red Dragon, The Phoenix shall Soar in 2024!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Devaishwarya View Post
    The melodrama was so...ugh!

    Of course they love him more than you Rachel...by Scott's own admission, they had no effin' clue who you were and what they meant to you... until that very moment. "rolls eyes"
    To be fair, with how Scott talks about Rachel in the rest of that story and in subsequent stories, it's clear that he pretty much accepted Rachel right away. Maybe that's because he knew her before, or maybe it's because since he never had a real family growing up, he reaches out wherever he can.

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