Mary Jane Watson-Parker Appreciation 2021

[WebLurker]

Yeah, I get that.
I was saying all the Spider people are really wearing rip-off's of Peter's costume.Although degree's vary.Miles's is a pretty blatant, Julia's and now Anya's is unique
Yeah Spinerret is definitely more of Ms. Spider-man, what ideas did you have for an MJ Spider suit.

That one in the Manga-based series was pretty distinct while still being a "Spider" costume.

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[Undergrizer]

That one in the Manga-based series was pretty distinct while still being a "Spider" costume.

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This suit is such a perfect for MJ superheroine as teen. Those bandages on the hands could be replaced by short spandex/latex gloves. Plus, those clothes reminds me civilian outfit for Leeloo from “The Fifth Element”. She as a actress and model can use for her alter ego Leeloo’s acting, and even make other variations of her suit. Like bikini, and dress like reference from here. And she can continue to wear this suit until her wedding with Peter and become a Mrs. Spider, switch to suit from RYV.
However, she needs a some unique and individual spider ability. Any ideas?

[Huntsman Spider]

This suit is such a perfect for MJ superheroine as teen. Those bandages on the hands could be replaced by short spandex/latex gloves. Plus, those clothes reminds me civilian outfit for Leeloo from “The Fifth Element”. She as a actress and model can use for her alter ego Leeloo’s acting, and even make other variations of her suit. Like bikini, and dress like reference from here. And she can continue to wear this suit until her wedding with Peter and become a Mrs. Spider, switch to suit from RYV.
However, she needs a some unique and individual spider ability. Any ideas?

Extending her adhesive grip to "magnetize" other people or objects touching the same surface as her, effectively paralyzing them. Got it from Mayday in the original Spider-Girl comics where she lost her powers for a few issues, then got them back when she was accidentally electrocuted in a fight with the mysterious new Spider-Man (later revealed as Gerry, Jessica Drew's teenage son who inherited her radiation disease and was given powers in the same procedure that caused her own in a failed attempt to cure him), only now her wall-crawling had expanded into a "bio-magnetic" ability that enabled her to effectively paralyze anyone or anything touching the same surface as her.

[WebLurker]

This suit is such a perfect for MJ superheroine as teen. Those bandages on the hands could be replaced by short spandex/latex gloves. Plus, those clothes reminds me civilian outfit for Leeloo from “The Fifth Element”. She as a actress and model can use for her alter ego Leeloo’s acting, and even make other variations of her suit. Like bikini, and dress like reference from here. And she can continue to wear this suit until her wedding with Peter and become a Mrs. Spider, switch to suit from RYV.
However, she needs a some unique and individual spider ability. Any ideas?

Being able to telepathically communicate with spiders? Might sound a bit Ant-Man-ish, but she could use that in place of spider-tracers, to scope out a scene before arriving herself, or whatever else you could think of.

[Spiderfan001]

That one in the Manga-based series was pretty distinct while still being a "Spider" costume.

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It's a spandex Iron Spider.
May be good for a teen MJ though

[Frontier]

It's a spandex Iron Spider.
May be good for a teen MJ though

I guess the colors are there.

[WebLurker]

It's a spandex Iron Spider.
May be good for a teen MJ though

Maybe silver instead of yellow. It would match the goggle lens, though.

[Undergrizer]

It's a spandex Iron Spider.
May be good for a teen MJ though

Well, she at the beginning can use Iron Spider suit, before getting Spider powers (like, from Spider-Virus. Probably, after being a Man-Spider). It could be a smooth evolution.

[Prime]

How do you guys feel that they are basically adapting One More Day?

[Jman27]

How do you guys feel that they are basically adapting One More Day?

Isn't it one moment in time? Then again it's not a deal to save a dying aunt life so Im cool

[Revolutionary_Jack]

How do you guys feel that they are basically adapting One More Day?

All they are adapting is the one part of that story that was never a part of the original concept of OMD. OMD was conceived by Quesada and the original version was never supposed to have Peter's identity exposed to the world. Then as Mark Millar was developing Civil War, Tom Brevoort suggested he expose Peter's identity as a stunt and gimmick since they both knew that the retcon would allow them to walk out of it.**

Besides the concept of erasing the memories of a romance and so on has been done in movies...SUPERMAN II. The non-superhero romance Heaven Can Wait had a similar concept. Also the Ashton Kutcher movie The Butterfly Effect.

The only annoying part is :
A) People are talking up OMD and OMIT, and sales of that comic are likely to spike. So you can expect some thinkpieces by people online about y'know maybe this comic isn't bad.
B) Someone is going to reach Quesada and he will give line, "everybody hated that when it came out but years later we see a movie borrowing ideas from it" as if that justifies anything.

Already Dan Slott in one of his tweets after the trailer said that the conversation between Peter-Strange was one that echoed talks writers had during BND sessions and now it was in a movie. So there's going to be a lot of reputation-laundering and legacy-laundering as the movie releases.



** David Michelinie in the mid-90s, when Tom Brevoort was in the office as an editor though not on Spider-Man at the time, pitched a story that was rejected. It involved Peter's identity being revealed, him going into witness protection, being used by the government as an agent, then turning against the government and going on the run and finally Michelinie planned to undo the identity exposure by having Purple Man strapped to an Amplifying Machine and making the world forget Peter's identity (he had used this concept in his OGN - EMPEROR DOOM). So my feeling is that Brevoort hijacked Michelinie's pitch and gave it to Millar. The point is that the Identity Reveal could have happened without it ever being tied to Peter's relationship issues.

[Revolutionary_Jack]

Isn't it one moment in time? Then again it's not a deal to save a dying aunt life so Im cool

As Kaitou B. Kid said,

OMIT is to OMD as the Delta Variant is to COVID.

[Vordan]

All they are adapting is the one part of that story that was never a part of the original concept of OMD. OMD was conceived by Quesada and the original version was never supposed to have Peter's identity exposed to the world. Then as Mark Millar was developing Civil War, Tom Brevoort suggested he expose Peter's identity as a stunt and gimmick since they both knew that the retcon would allow them to walk out of it.**

Besides the concept of erasing the memories of a romance and so on has been done in movies...SUPERMAN II. The non-superhero romance Heaven Can Wait had a similar concept. Also the Ashton Kutcher movie The Butterfly Effect.

The only annoying part is :
A) People are talking up OMD and OMIT, and sales of that comic are likely to spike. So you can expect some thinkpieces by people online about y'know maybe this comic isn't bad.
B) Someone is going to reach Quesada and he will give line, "everybody hated that when it came out but years later we see a movie borrowing ideas from it" as if that justifies anything.

Already Dan Slott in one of his tweets after the trailer said that the conversation between Peter-Strange was one that echoed talks writers had during BND sessions and now it was in a movie. So there's going to be a lot of reputation-laundering and legacy-laundering as the movie releases.



** David Michelinie in the mid-90s, when Tom Brevoort was in the office as an editor though not on Spider-Man at the time, pitched a story that was rejected. It involved Peter's identity being revealed, him going into witness protection, being used by the government as an agent, then turning against the government and going on the run and finally Michelinie planned to undo the identity exposure by having Purple Man strapped to an Amplifying Machine and making the world forget Peter's identity (he had used this concept in his OGN - EMPEROR DOOM). So my feeling is that Brevoort hijacked Michelinie's pitch and gave it to Millar. The point is that the Identity Reveal could have happened without it ever being tied to Peter's relationship issues.

OMD was based in part on a Superman pitch Millar was part of called Superman 2000, which would’ve seen Clark’s identity exposed and him having to make a deal with Mxy to save Lois’ life at the cost of his marriage.

[Revolutionary_Jack]

OMD was based in part on a Superman pitch Millar was part of called Superman 2000, which would’ve seen Clark’s identity exposed and him having to make a deal with Mxy to save Lois’ life at the cost of his marriage.

The Superman 2000 is a likely source, yeah. But never confirmed.

Peter's identity being exposed wasn't part of the original concept that Quesada had hashed out. The identity reveal came with Civil War at least based on what's publicly known about this storyline.

I wrote about that here:
https://elvingsmusings.wordpress.com...-one-more-day/

[Huntsman Spider]

All they are adapting is the one part of that story that was never a part of the original concept of OMD. OMD was conceived by Quesada and the original version was never supposed to have Peter's identity exposed to the world. Then as Mark Millar was developing Civil War, Tom Brevoort suggested he expose Peter's identity as a stunt and gimmick since they both knew that the retcon would allow them to walk out of it.**

Besides the concept of erasing the memories of a romance and so on has been done in movies...SUPERMAN II. The non-superhero romance Heaven Can Wait had a similar concept. Also the Ashton Kutcher movie The Butterfly Effect.

The only annoying part is :
A) People are talking up OMD and OMIT, and sales of that comic are likely to spike. So you can expect some thinkpieces by people online about y'know maybe this comic isn't bad.
B) Someone is going to reach Quesada and he will give line, "everybody hated that when it came out but years later we see a movie borrowing ideas from it" as if that justifies anything.

Already Dan Slott in one of his tweets after the trailer said that the conversation between Peter-Strange was one that echoed talks writers had during BND sessions and now it was in a movie. So there's going to be a lot of reputation-laundering and legacy-laundering as the movie releases.



** David Michelinie in the mid-90s, when Tom Brevoort was in the office as an editor though not on Spider-Man at the time, pitched a story that was rejected. It involved Peter's identity being revealed, him going into witness protection, being used by the government as an agent, then turning against the government and going on the run and finally Michelinie planned to undo the identity exposure by having Purple Man strapped to an Amplifying Machine and making the world forget Peter's identity (he had used this concept in his OGN - EMPEROR DOOM). So my feeling is that Brevoort hijacked Michelinie's pitch and gave it to Millar. The point is that the Identity Reveal could have happened without it ever being tied to Peter's relationship issues.

Funny enough, Charles Soule used that same basic idea in his Daredevil run, only with the Purple Children sired by the Purple Man instead, to make the world forget Daredevil was Matt Murdock, putting that secret identity genie back in the bottle after Mark Waid had Matt finally admit in public that he was Daredevil.