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    Cameo in Batman Black and White #5:

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    All the way in the back.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Caivu View Post
    Cameo in Batman Black and White #5:

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    All the way in the back.
    Other than through the process of elimination, (and given the current established line-up of the Batfamily), honestly how could you tell it's even her - could be just about anyone. Though I suppose that's true for most of them in the pic, other than Jason with his distinctive hairdo.

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    Batman #109 variant cover by Jen Bartel:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Caivu View Post
    Batman #109 variant cover by Jen Bartel:
    I'll assume this means she'll appear in the issue then.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Caivu View Post
    Batman #109 variant cover by Jen Bartel:

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    Nice to see Batwoman and Bluebird sharing cover space.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bat-Meal View Post
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    Batman #109 variant cover by Jen Bartel
    I'll assume this means she'll appear in the issue then.

    If it's a variant cover, there's no guarantee that she will.

    Especially if it's a Pride Month variant, and Kate would definitely represent the Bat-family for that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MajorHoy View Post
    If it's a variant cover, there's no guarantee that she will.

    Especially if it's a Pride Month variant, and Kate would definitely represent the Bat-family for that.
    The cover’s just there to depict the prominent LGBTQIA+ characters in the BatFamily (Kate, Renee, Ghost Maker, Harper), not an indicator of who’s in the actual story.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stars & Stripes View Post
    The cover’s just there to depict the prominent LGBTQIA+ characters in the BatFamily (Kate, Renee, Ghost Maker, Harper), not an indicator of who’s in the actual story.
    Ah, so as per usual she just showed-up for a cover-shoot. Seems to do that a lot these days.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bat-Meal View Post
    Ah, so as per usual she just showed-up for a cover-shoot. Seems to do that a lot these days.
    At least it's better than nothing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MajorHoy View Post
    At least it's better than nothing.
    I wanna see it confirmed in the comics.

    Bat-Family: Kate, you're actually here!

    Batwoman: I'm just here for the photos, then I'm gone.

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    While it's still Mother's Day, here's a partial portrait I made of Gabi, using her averaged look from all appearances:

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    The "urban legend" in the Truth and Justice story is Mothman:

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    Quite a bit of nonsense in today's The Other History of the DC Universe #4. Ridley, for some reason I can't figure out, massively changed Kate and Renee's initial relationship despite keeping everything else about Renee's history pretty much completely accurate.

    He changed spoilers:
    their first meeting, having Renee be a security guard encountering a comically drunk Kate in a parking lot rather than pulling her over for speeding.
    end of spoilers He completely altered spoilers:
    Kate's reasons for drinking.
    end of spoilers And, perhaps most damning, he made Renee spoilers:
    a cheater by making Kate her side piece while she was dating Daria, when originally those two relationships were years apart.
    end of spoilers It's maddening how unnecessary every single one of those changes were.

    The changes to things in Elegy are particularly grating because in doing so, Ridley removed thematically relevant material and replaced with with generic drunk-girl, "she's so wonderfully flawed" crap. The one thing I had wanted to see from this segment was how Renee reacted to Kate calling her out on what Kate saw as cowardice, but absolutely nothing was done with that. In an issue explicitly devoted to Renee's inner turmoil at having to hide her sexuality, this moment gets no play at whatsoever. It's baffling.

    Fortunately, this is Black Label and therefore not canon, and the parts covering 52 onward are better in this regard. But wow, what a souring handful of pages that was.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Caivu View Post
    Cameo in Batman Black and White #5:

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    All the way in the back.
    I miss the bob.
    Quote Originally Posted by Caivu View Post
    Quite a bit of nonsense in today's The Other History of the DC Universe #4. Ridley, for some reason I can't figure out, massively changed Kate and Renee's initial relationship despite keeping everything else about Renee's history pretty much completely accurate.

    He changed spoilers:
    their first meeting, having Renee be a security guard encountering a comically drunk Kate in a parking lot rather than pulling her over for speeding.
    end of spoilers He completely altered spoilers:
    Kate's reasons for drinking.
    end of spoilers And, perhaps most damning, he made Renee spoilers:
    a cheater by making Kate her side piece while she was dating Daria, when originally those two relationships were years apart.
    end of spoilers It's maddening how unnecessary every single one of those changes were.

    The changes to things in Elegy are particularly grating because in doing so, Ridley removed thematically relevant material and replaced with with generic drunk-girl, "she's so wonderfully flawed" crap. The one thing I had wanted to see from this segment was how Renee reacted to Kate calling her out on what Kate saw as cowardice, but absolutely nothing was done with that. In an issue explicitly devoted to Renee's inner turmoil at having to hide her sexuality, this moment gets no play at whatsoever. It's baffling.

    Fortunately, this is Black Label and therefore not canon, and the parts covering 52 onward are better in this regard. But wow, what a souring handful of pages that was.
    Wow, that all sounds...unnecessary.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frontier View Post
    Wow, that all sounds...unnecessary.
    100%. The initial meeting scene would have worked the exact same if Ridley had kept to what happened in Elegy. The other mischaracterizes both characters so badly that for a brief moment one might be convinced Ridley had never even heard of them before, and on top of that actively harms the issue's theming with some of the omissions made. I'm at a loss to explain why these changes were made to this specific section of Renee's history, and why they were so drastic, when nothing else in the issue comes anywhere close to that.
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