It's a pretty Wonder Woman way though to appeal to the individual and the masses through their humanity.
It's not that different from how she's defeated Ares in the past.
I think there was plenty to establish the WW/Cheetah rivalry and set them against each other even if Cheetah wasn't the main villain, setting the stage for it to continue in the third movie.
I'm just happy this movie got Max Lord better than most modern comics do. And Max is far more human and caring (in his own way) compared to Trump.
Well, when DC shoves it into the comics and practically every media, it kind of stands out when we finally see Diana just not using it.
I actually really liked all the cool lasso feats. I didn't think it glowed that bright, at least to a bothersome extent.I'm not surprised at the lasso complaints, the glowing itself isn't the problem, it was some of the wonky movement and just how bright/when it glowed.
It doesn't even make sense when you look at all the villains she actually does have if writers paid half enough attention to her Rogues Gallery.
I'm not totally giving up on Cheetah just yet because she does seem poised to come back and I at least really liked Wiig in the role. But this movie could have done one villain or the other, but didn't really need both and ran into the Spider-Man 3 problem. She got the short end of the stick ("Venom'd") despite being the actual arch nemesis, and it was done in favor of taking shots at Trump (even if that isn't the only inspiration for Max). The more I think about it, the more annoyed I get.
I am too. Also shocked to see a lot of supporters of those films ask why more wasn't done to explain what Diana did during WW2 and why she didn't do more.
As if we haven't been stuck with that dumbass decision since BvS and Jenkins has had to awkwardly work around it.
Exactly. That comment wreaks of unfamiliarity with the Wonder Woman series, which is pretty jarring seeing as Geoff Johns seems to know the importance of villains in a superhero comic. I have a feeling a lot of this stems from Wonder Woman's rogues gallery being 90% women, and that misogyny just doesn't sit well with me.
I feel like both Max and Barbara carried the main theme of the movie together to a certain extent. You had Max as the driving force of the problem while Barbara was the physical antagonist who refused to the let the wishes be undone and representing the general public to a certain extent, but unlike them she never renounced her wish.
I feel like they gave Barbara/Cheetah plenty to build her up to being Diana's main rival in the film and to have that carry over into another movie without needing her to be the main villain, but she was the one Wonder Woman had the big fight with at the end. Diana managed to redeem Max but she may have been too late to save Barbara.
It reeks to me of taking the more "popular" belief of Wonder Woman as this Xena-type warrior woman as basis for her character instead of how she's supposed to be.
If ten years of recording The Young and the Restless for my mother have taught me anything, it's that characters in serial dramas are always happily in love...until they're not
“The very powerful and the very stupid have one thing in common. Instead of altering their views to fit the facts, they alter the facts to fit their views...which can be very uncomfortable if you happen to be one of the facts that needs altering.” - the 4th Doctor
Thank you! Not to mention that WW84 was the THIRD film in which the lasso glowed. Why are these people acting like BvS and WW did not already show the lasso glowing? Why is this complain coming up now?
Also, the lasso was ALWAYS supposed to emit light. Have these people never read Marston's classic WW tales? The lasso was always drawn with "light effects" around it. All the way from Marston to today (and Perez did the most fabulous ---in my opinion---version of the glow...he drew it as if it were on fire, like the Hestian fires from which the lasso was created).
Are people really not aware that the Lynda Carter show gave her a crappy string covered in golden glitter because of their limited TV budget?
And yes, I would also have been very disappointed if the movie lasso did not glow.
Well, I like to think since that hasn't happened in the movies yet it wouldn't happen in the third film.
I guess if we do get Cheetah and Circe in a film together it would be a mutual partnership like she had with Lord to some extent, and anything else comes down to direction and screentime.
Cheetah could have worked as the main villain if the plot wasn't grandiose in scope. In a personal stakes film Cheetah should definitely be the main villain. Personally, I feel this would have been a better movie if Steve got dropped altogether and focused on Diana's friendship with Barbara. Barbara could have been the person to get Diana to reconnect with people after losing her wartime friends and Steve.
Yeah, there are a lot of potential ways this could go south and one of these ladies gets short changed. or all three
I definitely would have preferred just a Diana and Barbara movie set in the modern day. Definitely without Max and maybe even lacking Steve.
I glanced at some parts of the RLM review. I'm not surprised they didn't like it and I doubt I will agree with everything they say (I tend to like BoTW and Re:view of all their videos instead of reviews of current stuff), but they had a point that Cheetah seems a bit disconnected from the rest of it and could have been its own movie.
I am most surprised at the utterly RIDICULOUS "Wonder Woman is a rapist!" narrative that so many internet denizens are trying to push. It stinks of an insufferable amalgamation of the worst stereotypes about comic book nerds and so-called SJWs. Just sad.