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    Default What Is the Greatest Indie Book Ever Created?

    Many great indie books have come out over the decades, particularly in the 70's and 80's, many legendary non-big 2 comics were published.

    What Are Your Favorites?

    The ones that come to my mind are Eastman and Laird's TMNT, Hellboy, Nexus, Cerebus, Elfquest and The Rocketeer, though it's hard to have a favorite!

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    ^^^Great list! But don't forget Jeff Smith's Bone


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    Savage Dragon
    TMNT
    Bone
    Cerebus
    The Walking Dead

    Maybe Spawn

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    Are we limiting it to American comics?

    Limiting it to books I have read, these would be my top 50 in no particular order

    Bone by Jeff Smith
    At the Mountains of Madness Vol. 1 and 2 by Gou Tanabe
    Strangers in Paradise by Terry Moore
    Love and Rockets by Los Brothers Hernandez
    Elfquest by Wendy and Richard Pini
    The Incal by Jodorosky & Moebius
    Lone Wolf and Cub by Kazuo Koike and Goseki Kojima
    Maus by art spiegleman
    A Contract with God trilogy by Will Eisner
    Fax from Sarjevo by Joe Kubert
    Safe Area Gorazde by Joe Sacco
    Berlin by Jason Lutes
    Den by Richard Corben
    The Rocketeer by Dave Stevens
    Castle Waiting by Linda Medley
    Age of Bronze by Eric Shanower
    Finder by Carla Speed McNeil
    Usagi Yojimbo by Stan Sakai
    Hellboy/BPRD by Mignola and friends
    Concrete by Paul Chadwick
    A Distant Soil by Colleen Doran
    Blacksad by Juan Díaz Canales and Juanjo Guarnido
    Corto Maltese by Hugo Pratt
    Criminal by Brubaker & Phillips
    The First Kingdom by Jack Katz
    Essex County by Jeff Lemire
    Understanding Comics/Reinventing Comics/Making Comics by Scott McCloud
    The Adventures of Luther Arkwright by Bryan Talbot
    Mouse Guard by David Pedersen
    The Life and Times of Scrooge McDuck by Don Rosa
    Infinite Kung Fu by Kagan McLeod
    Dignifying Science by Jim Ottaviani & friends
    Hicksville by Dylan Horrocks
    Strangehaven by Gary Spencer Millidge
    RASL by Jeff Smith
    Sculptor by Scott McCloud
    Palestine by Joe Sacco
    Metabarons by Jodorowsky & friends
    Astro City by Kurt Busiek, Brent Anderson & Alex Ross
    March Books One-Three by John Lewis & friends
    My Favorite Thing is Monsters by Emil Ferris
    Descender by Jeff Lemire & Dustin Ngyuen
    Sin City by Frank Miller
    Moby Dick adapted by Bill Sienkewicz (Classics Illustrated #4)
    Journey by William Messner-Loebs
    Blueberry by Moebius and Charlier
    Tintin by Herge
    Yossel by Joe Kubert
    Last Day in Viet Nam by Will Eisner
    Octavia Butler's Kindred adapted by John Jennings & firends

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    So many to list.

    But one of the best creative teams had got to be Brubaker/Phillips. They’re yet to give us a bad book and seem to only be getting more and more impressive as they go on.

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    Nobody's said Stray Bullets? NOBODY?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MRP View Post
    Are we limiting it to American comics?

    Limiting it to books I have read, these would be my top 50 in no particular order

    Bone by Jeff Smith
    At the Mountains of Madness Vol. 1 and 2 by Gou Tanabe
    Strangers in Paradise by Terry Moore
    Love and Rockets by Los Brothers Hernandez
    Elfquest by Wendy and Richard Pini
    The Incal by Jodorosky & Moebius
    Lone Wolf and Cub by Kazuo Koike and Goseki Kojima
    Maus by art spiegleman
    A Contract with God trilogy by Will Eisner
    Fax from Sarjevo by Joe Kubert
    Safe Area Gorazde by Joe Sacco
    Berlin by Jason Lutes
    Den by Richard Corben
    The Rocketeer by Dave Stevens
    Castle Waiting by Linda Medley
    Age of Bronze by Eric Shanower
    Finder by Carla Speed McNeil
    Usagi Yojimbo by Stan Sakai
    Hellboy/BPRD by Mignola and friends
    Concrete by Paul Chadwick
    A Distant Soil by Colleen Doran
    Blacksad by Juan Díaz Canales and Juanjo Guarnido
    Corto Maltese by Hugo Pratt
    Criminal by Brubaker & Phillips
    The First Kingdom by Jack Katz
    Essex County by Jeff Lemire
    Understanding Comics/Reinventing Comics/Making Comics by Scott McCloud
    The Adventures of Luther Arkwright by Bryan Talbot
    Mouse Guard by David Pedersen
    The Life and Times of Scrooge McDuck by Don Rosa
    Infinite Kung Fu by Kagan McLeod
    Dignifying Science by Jim Ottaviani & friends
    Hicksville by Dylan Horrocks
    Strangehaven by Gary Spencer Millidge
    RASL by Jeff Smith
    Sculptor by Scott McCloud
    Palestine by Joe Sacco
    Metabarons by Jodorowsky & friends
    Astro City by Kurt Busiek, Brent Anderson & Alex Ross
    March Books One-Three by John Lewis & friends
    My Favorite Thing is Monsters by Emil Ferris
    Descender by Jeff Lemire & Dustin Ngyuen
    Sin City by Frank Miller
    Moby Dick adapted by Bill Sienkewicz (Classics Illustrated #4)
    Journey by William Messner-Loebs
    Blueberry by Moebius and Charlier
    Tintin by Herge
    Yossel by Joe Kubert
    Last Day in Viet Nam by Will Eisner
    Octavia Butler's Kindred adapted by John Jennings & firends

    -M
    I'm not sure if every Europeans comic listed count as independent, as they might be part of big editorial houses in their country of origin or they appeared in magazines that were pretty popular back then (this is my genuine ignorance, I really don't know).

    Great list by the way.

    Mine would be (and thinking of comics like Tintin as independent even if I don't really know if they count):
    -Blueberry
    -Tintin
    -Blacksad
    -Thorgal
    -Metabarons (ironically, I don't care much for The Incal, except for Moebius outstanding pencils and the original coloring)
    -Maus
    -Persepolis
    -Asterix
    -Hellboy
    -From Hell
    -Understanding Comics
    -TMNT
    -The Crow
    -Mafalda
    -El Eternauta
    -Corto Maltese
    -Is the magazine that published Berserk in its early years independent? And what about Akira? If they count as independent, add them to my list

    And many others I'm probably forgetting about
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chubistian View Post
    I'm not sure if every Europeans comic listed count as independent, as they might be part of big editorial houses in their country of origin or they appeared in magazines that were pretty popular back then (this is my genuine ignorance, I really don't know).
    I have the impression that the English versions of successful comics never appear in big editorial houses…
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    Quote Originally Posted by MRP View Post
    Are we limiting it to American comics?

    Limiting it to books I have read, these would be my top 50 in no particular order

    Bone by Jeff Smith
    At the Mountains of Madness Vol. 1 and 2 by Gou Tanabe
    Strangers in Paradise by Terry Moore
    Love and Rockets by Los Brothers Hernandez
    Elfquest by Wendy and Richard Pini
    The Incal by Jodorosky & Moebius
    Lone Wolf and Cub by Kazuo Koike and Goseki Kojima
    Maus by art spiegleman
    A Contract with God trilogy by Will Eisner
    Fax from Sarjevo by Joe Kubert
    Safe Area Gorazde by Joe Sacco
    Berlin by Jason Lutes
    Den by Richard Corben
    The Rocketeer by Dave Stevens
    Castle Waiting by Linda Medley
    Age of Bronze by Eric Shanower
    Finder by Carla Speed McNeil
    Usagi Yojimbo by Stan Sakai
    Hellboy/BPRD by Mignola and friends
    Concrete by Paul Chadwick
    A Distant Soil by Colleen Doran
    Blacksad by Juan Díaz Canales and Juanjo Guarnido
    Corto Maltese by Hugo Pratt
    Criminal by Brubaker & Phillips
    The First Kingdom by Jack Katz
    Essex County by Jeff Lemire
    Understanding Comics/Reinventing Comics/Making Comics by Scott McCloud
    The Adventures of Luther Arkwright by Bryan Talbot
    Mouse Guard by David Pedersen
    The Life and Times of Scrooge McDuck by Don Rosa
    Infinite Kung Fu by Kagan McLeod
    Dignifying Science by Jim Ottaviani & friends
    Hicksville by Dylan Horrocks
    Strangehaven by Gary Spencer Millidge
    RASL by Jeff Smith
    Sculptor by Scott McCloud
    Palestine by Joe Sacco
    Metabarons by Jodorowsky & friends
    Astro City by Kurt Busiek, Brent Anderson & Alex Ross
    March Books One-Three by John Lewis & friends
    My Favorite Thing is Monsters by Emil Ferris
    Descender by Jeff Lemire & Dustin Ngyuen
    Sin City by Frank Miller
    Moby Dick adapted by Bill Sienkewicz (Classics Illustrated #4)
    Journey by William Messner-Loebs
    Blueberry by Moebius and Charlier
    Tintin by Herge
    Yossel by Joe Kubert
    Last Day in Viet Nam by Will Eisner
    Octavia Butler's Kindred adapted by John Jennings & firends

    -M
    I never liked the term indie comics. It's way too broad. I understand it getting used to describe third party publishers in Ameirica like Dark Horse or Image, but Manga and Euorpean comics shouldn't fall under that category because books like Lone Wolf & Cub and the Incal are those respective industries' mainstream.

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    That makes sense, I was thinking, if you have a million dollar industry making movies about your stuff, you are an industry.

    Did anyone mention Mike Allred’s Madman? There is a new collection from Darkhorse and it’s so good from issue one.

    I like the term third party publisher. One comic I read on Eclipse that blew my mind way back when, Miracle Man. I know it’s by Alan Moore but for about ten years it fell like an underground book. Speaking of which, what about Zapp! Comics and all those artists. Would EC comics count?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Timothy Hunter View Post
    I never liked the term indie comics. It's way too broad. I understand it getting used to describe third party publishers in Ameirica like Dark Horse or Image, but Manga and Euorpean comics shouldn't fall under that category because books like Lone Wolf & Cub and the Incal are those respective industries' mainstream.
    If we are talking strictly publishing and not other media exploitation of the properties, neither DC nor Marvel are mainstream for comic publishing anymore. They may be the most popular in the niche direct market, but their product does not have any where near enough mass market penetration or visibility to be considered mainstream. Mainstream comic publishers in the 21st century are publishers like Scholastic and the graphic novel imprints from the big book publishers that put out product like the Telgameier books and Dog Boy that are available in the mass market and sell to readers everywhere in the US not just in the limited places that have direct market retail outlets.

    However, when using Indy to refer to comics in the US, it usually has nothing to do with mainstream or non-mainstream it is simply a shortcut for saying any publisher that is not Marvel or DC, even when some of those publishers outsold Marvel and DC by a wide margin for long stretches of the period from '38-present (Dell in particular for most of the 40s-early70s outpaced both National/DC and Timely/Atlas/Marvel in sales).

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    Quote Originally Posted by DanMad1977 View Post
    Savage Dragon
    TMNT
    Bone
    Cerebus
    The Walking Dead

    Maybe Spawn
    I don't think "Image" is really an "indy" but I realize others may disagree.

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    What is the current accepted American Comic Book term for: Indie

    Since I began reading i the mid 80s I came to understand Indie as anything non-Marvel/DC
    That held true enough through the 90s I felt.

    Then post-2000s there was on occasion a division in what indie meant. Dark Horse and Image had been around so long folks didn't consider them Indie.

    I'd now add in Publishers like Dynamite, IDW, Boom, Valiant and Zennescope. All are known names with recognizable brands. Their market share is smaller but I don't think of them as Indie. Take IDW for example, they have Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles that no argument began as Indie but has grown from it's roots at Mirage-->Image-->Mirage 2.0--->IDW and its a billion dollar empire owned by Nickelodeon. Hardly Indie anymore.

    Walking Dead at Image, that isn't Indie, its an empire.

    There are still super small publishers like Scout, Titan, Bad Idea(closing I hear) now those I'd call Indie but none have titles I'm overly familiar with.
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    Anybody want to add in Tales of the Beanworld?



    Dark Horse is collecting them these days, but it started out as an independent that then hooked up with Eclipse Comics back in the day.

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    Yup, Bone is the best. I've read it about ten times. It's astoundingly good.

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