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    Quote Originally Posted by SecretWarrior View Post
    ...I think he's better off without the helmet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frontier View Post
    ...I think he's better off without the helmet.
    The MCU version would look better with one. Comics are fine either way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SecretWarrior View Post
    The MCU version would look better with one. Comics are fine either way.
    I think the helmets more of a "Steve" thing than a Sam thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frontier View Post
    I think the helmets more of a "Steve" thing than a Sam thing.
    That's like saying shirts are more of a Sam thing than a Thor thing, lol

    Sam has had full face masks before:



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    So I guess he's keeping the Cap suit on?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frontier View Post
    ...I think he's better off without the helmet.
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    I think the helmets more of a "Steve" thing than a Sam thing.
    I'm the other way. Love the look (the art also helps).
    While I get what you mean by helmets being more a Steve thing, I've always had an issue with the head piece. Though to be fair, Immonen's art made it look half decent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SecretWarrior View Post
    Ah, Ultimate Sam...where militarized Sam first became a thing.

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    Warren Ellis made it work in the context of the Ultimates universe. The movies were clearly influenced by this depiction, since I don't know any other versions of Sam that use submachine guns.

    Ellis also gave Sam a scientific pedigree, which was cool.

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    Also, winged characters using firearms is classic Marvel.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Frontier View Post
    So I guess he's keeping the Cap suit on?
    Most likely because of synergy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SecretWarrior View Post
    Warren Ellis made it work in the context of the Ultimates universe. The movies were clearly influenced by this depiction, since I don't know any other versions of Sam that use submachine guns.

    Ellis also gave Sam a scientific pedigree, which was cool.
    I always thought the guns were a bit much, but I digress...

    Reminds me of Avengers Assemble Sam being into engineering.
    Quote Originally Posted by BlackClaw View Post
    Most likely because of synergy.
    Probably, although not sure how much he'll get to do in the suit now. Unless the next Cap book is a new solo for him.

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