I don't think it was officially called a cameo just that Singer wanted him and Nightcrawler to appear. I would also prefer he be a Horseman in the film. It would be interesting to see him as a villain and then in his solo you get his background that leads up to Apocalypse turning him into a Horseman.
He doesn't have to have the black skin, white hair, or the fart powers. Just be a Horseman of Death. Hell maybe you don't even know in the Apocalypse movie whether he is brainwashed or simply working for Apocalypse out of choice which is precisely why you have the solo go into his background to help explain how he ended up with Apocalypse.
If for example the end scene in the solo is the MM then the after credits scene can be Apocalypse seeking out Gambit because he wanted to know what Sinister was up to. Maybe Gambit is severely injured and Apocalypse promises he can save him with his Tech and in doing so Gambit becomes brainwashed and hence becomes a Horseman.
Last edited by remydat; 05-15-2014 at 01:27 PM.
It's hard for me to listen to someone not in my position. A caterpillar can't relate to what an eagle envisions.
But it is an origin story. Again in the Apocalypse movie he appears as a Horseman and the audience doesn't really know why. Then his solo movie is as follows.
So basically the origin story is tracing his history from the Guilds to the MM. And then the after credit scene as I said just shows Apocalypse searching for Sinister because Sinister is the one guy he thinks can stop him and instead discovers Gambit seriously injured and uses his celestial tech to heal him and turn him into a Horseman.
So you get an origin story as well as you link it to the Apocalypse movie with the after credits scene. Any sequels then can deal with Gambit trying to redeem himself for the Horseman thing by joining the X-men while his role in the MM is still unknown by them and serves as tension as part of a later reveal.
It's hard for me to listen to someone not in my position. A caterpillar can't relate to what an eagle envisions.
Why do you want him to be a Horseman so much?
The only thing that I liked about Horseman story is when Gambit told that he loves X-Men so he will become Horseman to watch after Apocalypse and protect friends. But on the other hand we all know how stupid this decision was.
I just think it would be a cool way to introduce him. Why Gambit became a horseman is interesting, even if boneheaded. It gives the villain more validity too. Even though Apocalypse is about as legit as it gets. Plus, making him a horseman in the movie could differ from how it happened in the comics... I don't know, it's just one idea I had for the movie.
I wouldn't be disappointed in the slightest if he was introduced some other way and joined the X-Men.
Well, at least it can create some mystery around him.
But still I would love to see Gambit in movie and not some brainwashed Remy.
Last edited by Purplevit; 05-15-2014 at 02:15 PM.
As a hero, I think he will end up as just another mutant in a list of crowded mutant heroes. As one of the Horseman of Apocalypse, I think he gets a bigger role in the film. So part of it is simply one of where I think he can have the best role given the dynamics of the movies.
From a story perspective, I think Gambit is at his best as a morally ambiguous character. To me, his role would be like Winter Soldiers in Captain America ie the brainwashed villain who overcomes his brainwashing towards the end of the film which then sets up his solo movies up as an exploration of his origins (first solo movie) and then his redemption (future X-men films and solo movies).
It's hard for me to listen to someone not in my position. A caterpillar can't relate to what an eagle envisions.
I think using Gambit in Apocalypse as one of the X-Men would be a terrible idea. If you want to use Gambit properly there have to be some mystery behind him and you should never explain what that is(at least not before creating nore mysteries). If viewers (or readers in comics) learn most things about him, character loses too many things. One of the reasons i love gambit was this.
Otherwise he will be just one more mutant like Remydat said.
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As you can see on this page, everyone is concerned but gambit. He just knows. Yes this page is from Prof's dream but even in his dream he sees him like this. That's what makes Remy LeBeau Gambit IMHO.
Your movie plot was wonderful Remydat. I really loved it
Yes I agree. The man must have his mysteries and secrets. It's what set him apart from the rest of the X-men. There was always that sense of "Have we accepted a traitor in our midst," when it came to Gambit as people like Banshee would remark about how Gambit was here learning all he could about the X-men but they knew next to nothing about him.
So I just think in the movie verse, he would work best as a morally grey character. A guy the audience isn't sure about initially but in the end they end up rooting for him to choose the side of good. It's a delicate balance to try and achieve.
It's hard for me to listen to someone not in my position. A caterpillar can't relate to what an eagle envisions.
It's hard for me to listen to someone not in my position. A caterpillar can't relate to what an eagle envisions.