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    As a Catholics it'd be very disappointing if they made their most prominent Catholic character other than arguably Daredevil into an atheist

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    Quote Originally Posted by gonnagiveittoya View Post
    As a Catholics it'd be very disappointing if they made their most prominent Catholic character other than arguably Daredevil into an atheist
    They already did to Cap, and i point to that ignorant as all arc where Nightcrawler was somehow a priest

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    I mean Kurts literally been to heaven, he'd make the least sense to make an atheist

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    Quote Originally Posted by king of hybrids View Post
    Wanda living rent free in their heads and getting de facto human sacrifices effectively in her name aside, the sheer arrogance of Xavier and the mutants around death sticks in the craw

    1) because my god have none of them been in this gig long enough to not tempt Murphy?
    2) the fact that there are still things that can truly kill them means that their relationship with mortality has evolved, not been conquered*

    * the idea in Valkyrie that mutants having the resurrection protocols could kill Death’s 616 incarnation annoys me

    Yeah, it's not like other beings aren't dying in the 616 universe.
    Last time it takes literal Lovecraftian Old Ones to kill Death and turn the AU into Cancerverse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gonnagiveittoya View Post
    As a Catholics it'd be very disappointing if they made their most prominent Catholic character other than arguably Daredevil into an atheist
    People, even Catholics, change religions for many very personal reasons. The many Gods understand that it's not the destination but the journey that's important.
    And Kurt deciding he no longer wants to follow a particular path shouldn't affect you and other Catholics because you each have your own paths to walk and journeys to take.
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    Nightcrawler becoming an Atheist would be stupid he legit died & went to heaven at one point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Devaishwarya View Post
    People, even Catholics, change religions for many very personal reasons. The many Gods understand that it's not the destination but the journey that's important.
    And Kurt deciding he no longer wants to follow a particular path shouldn't affect you and other Catholics because you each have your own paths to walk and journeys to take.
    Let's not pretend if Kamala or Dust or Kate gave up their faiths it wouldn't be an immediate uproar.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Su_Whisterfield View Post
    First scripted pages up at AIPT.
    Si says they’re out of order.
    https://aiptcomics.com/2021/03/26/ma...ok-way-of-x-1/
    I appreciate Xavier sleeps in the nude.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gonnagiveittoya View Post
    Let's not pretend if Kamala or Dust or Kate gave up their faiths it wouldn't be an immediate uproar.
    It would only be an "uproar" (an empty and pointless one at that) among and by those who, if their own personal faith is so easily called into question because of a fictional character's "decision" then they really shouldn't be reading comics in the first place. And they need to seek out their own Gods and scripture as to why their own belief is so weak and easily fractured.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Devaishwarya View Post
    It would only be an "uproar" (an empty and pointless one at that) among and by those who, if their own personal faith is so easily called into question because of a fictional character's "decision" then they really shouldn't be reading comics in the first place. And they need to seek out their own Gods and scripture as to why their own belief is so weak and easily fractured.
    Lol seriously? It would absolutely be a huge controversy if they suddenly made them atheists, the same way people did when Oscar Isaac was cast as Moon Knight. And he actually is Jewish.

    If they had a major Muslim character renounce Islam it'd be an immediate controversy, let's not pretend otherwise.
    Last edited by gonnagiveittoya; 03-27-2021 at 02:20 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Journey View Post
    Nightcrawler becoming an Atheist would be stupid he legit died & went to heaven at one point.
    Kurt deciding to follow another path other than Catholicism, does not make him an atheist. It just makes him question the path he's been following all along even given his experiences.

    And as a general rule...real people, no matter what faith they follow, don't die, go to Heaven (or the equivalent there-of), lose their souls, and miraculously come back alive to live a normal existence.

    So....
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    Quote Originally Posted by gonnagiveittoya View Post
    Lol seriously? It would absolutely be a huge controversy if they suddenly made them atheists, the same way people did when Oscar Isaac was cast as Moon Knight. And he actually is Jewish.

    If they had a major Muslim character renounce Islam it'd be an immediate controversy, let's not pretend otherwise.
    Yes, seriously....

    There shouldn't be any twitter non-trovercies...Not if the reason for the renunciation was meaningful and well presented.
    Like I said...people in real life change religions for many deeply personal and legitimate reasons....marriage being one such reason. Loss and/or questioning of said Faith is another. It happens. And more often than one would think.
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    I just think it would suck if the one of two Catholic characters who got me into comics in the first place suddenly wasn't a Catholic anymore because it's politically incorrect otherwise.

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    Would it really "suck" though? Would your actual real-life Faith and your soul shrivel up and die? Your connection to your God become empty and meaningless?
    No sarcasm...I'm genuinely asking.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gonnagiveittoya View Post
    I just think it would suck if the one of two Catholic characters who got me into comics in the first place suddenly wasn't a Catholic anymore because it's politically incorrect otherwise.

    Agreed specially since most characters seem to be agnostic. I think in this case Spurrier should not touch the religion aspect of Nightcrawler, he has been nominally catholic for a long time and an active catholic for a while so he can stay that way for this run. Spurrier should keep himself into the "new way of living" for the story, it suits him better because he´s not a religious person and it allows other characters to follow this path if the objective is to stablish a way for Krakoa to not self-destruct as a result of their unity, that would be just sad.
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