What Should Marvel Do About The Punisher at This Point?

[Captain Craig]

As said by others: Nothing

[Albert1981]

Kind of makes me think this damages Castle's chances of joining the MCU.

[scribbleMind]

I get giving Frank a rest during these times, but I personally wouldn't want anything to change with Frank. I just love how consistent and reliable his books are. Sometimes it seems like you have to go out of your way to write a bad Punisher story (as opposed to one that is just generic).

I think it is possible, given the upcoming show, that they could attempt to have Moon Knight take the place of Frank Castle as the de facto edgy violent anti-hero.

They could also choose to bring back either Nigel Higgens with an updated symbol and shove him back in the spotlight. I would say Rachel because I love Rachel, but that would just result in the female members of these communities having their own Punisher symbol to parade around in. Nigel being from the UK, being black, and not being nearly as committed to Punisher's ideology would be things that would likely prevent hate groups from wanting to parade around in his symbol. I know he is in a good place right now, but you can easily do stories where bad things happen and he's struggling not to fall back into his old ways, ultimately resulting in some Equalizer-esque adventures.

[PCN24454]

Kind of makes me think this damages Castle's chances of joining the MCU.

But he's already in the MCU.

[The Cool Thatguy]

I get giving Frank a rest during these times, but I personally wouldn't want anything to change with Frank. I just love how consistent and reliable his books are. Sometimes it seems like you have to go out of your way to write a bad Punisher story (as opposed to one that is just generic).

I think it is possible, given the upcoming show, that they could attempt to have Moon Knight take the place of Frank Castle as the de facto edgy violent anti-hero.

They could also choose to bring back either Nigel Higgens with an updated symbol and shove him back in the spotlight. I would say Rachel because I love Rachel, but that would just result in the female members of these communities having their own Punisher symbol to parade around in. Nigel being from the UK, being black, and not being nearly as committed to Punisher's ideology would be things that would likely prevent hate groups from wanting to parade around in his symbol. I know he is in a good place right now, but you can easily do stories where bad things happen and he's struggling not to fall back into his old ways, ultimately resulting in some Equalizer-esque adventures.

Ewing brought back Nigel, and had him renounce the skull because of how others perceived it.

A plot about Castle looking at that could be interesting.

[xcoijoi]

Keep Castle going for as long as they can, and don't let a minority of symbol-worshippers ruin a solid form of entertainment.

Thank you.

[The Cool Thatguy]

If nothing else, stop sending Castle up against villains who eat kittens and punt puppies.

Lets see some actual moral gray, where all his villains aren't confessing their most depraved act to a mass murderer, hoping for mercy.

[Swamp Thing 2099]

The Punisher Kills the Executive Branch, oversized OGN by Jason Aaron and Aaron Kuder.

[Albert1981]

But he's already in the MCU.

I meant Feige's PG-13 MCU!

[Omega Alpha]

The Punisher Kills the Executive Branch, oversized OGN by Jason Aaron and Aaron Kuder.

They can even have two sequels if it sells well!

[Tony Stark]

Keep Castle going for as long as they can, and don't let a minority of symbol-worshippers ruin a solid form of entertainment.

Thank you.

Well said. I agree.

[Agent Z]

Punisher wasn't even a satire of ultra-violent heroes since there weren't any when he was created.

Yes there were. Mack Bolan from The Executioner (who was a Vietnam War vet like Frank) and Paul Kersey from the Death Wish novel. Both of them had their families victimized by crime in their origin stories which motivated them to become vigilantes just like Frank.

[Alan2099]

Yes there were. Mack Bolan from The Executioner (who was a Vietnam War vet like Frank) and Paul Kersey from the Death Wish novel. Both of them had their families victimized by crime in their origin stories which motivated them to become vigilantes just like Frank.

That's not being a satire. That's just using the same idea.

[Agent Z]

That's not being a satire. That's just using the same idea.

I didn't say he was a satire. I was just refuting the argument that there weren't any violent antiheroes when the Punisher debuted.

[Triniking1234]

Yes there were. Mack Bolan from The Executioner (who was a Vietnam War vet like Frank) and Paul Kersey from the Death Wish novel. Both of them had their families victimized by crime in their origin stories which motivated them to become vigilantes just like Frank.

Are those novels or movies? If there are other characters like this outside of comics, I wouldn't know. My bad.