Alexander Summers: Havok Appreciation 2021

[Chris0013]

And? How would that give Alex any political prominence? She has no power

Jan is more than just a founding Avenger. Successful business woman and connected all over the place.

[the illustrious mr. kenway]

Honestly I just wanted a fun celebrity romance but Janet being a businesswoman helps.

[LoganAlpha30X33]

you wrote that most of his relationships have ended badly except for her.

Doesn't make him toxic or his relationship with her toxic...

[Havok83]

Trying to kill your partner is toxic

Stringing someone along and dumping them at the alter is toxic

Being mentally damaged and needing the other to sustain a sense of "normalcy" is toxic

Exhibiting jealousy, acting on it and having controlling attributes towards one's ex is toxic

[EmeraldGladiator]

I prefer the Jessica Rabbit defense of she wasn't bad she was just drawn that way, same thing with characters being handled by hack writers or writers that don't care about them. Just like no character gets a happily ever after in Soaps neither do they in comics, unless you are OG Superman at the end of COIE, and that was only done because TPTB at DC had nothing else for him to do. Breaking couples up is what you do to keep them 'dramatic' sometimes by outside forces ala Malice sometimes by one of the two characters being a jerk. When characters have been around for decades there are a lot of instances of the characters being a jerk. Like Sue and her issues with Namor.

[LoganAlpha30X33]

Trying to kill your partner is toxic

Stringing someone along and dumping them at the alter is toxic

Being mentally damaged and needing the other to sustain a sense of "normalcy" is toxic

Exhibiting jealousy, acting on it and having controlling attributes towards one's ex is toxic

Which would make then Lorna toxic in the relationship as well...never said the pairing was perfect, admitted that it has had its problems, but still possible to be great if written well...

[Havok83]

Which would make then Lorna toxic in the relationship as well...never said the pairing was perfect, admitted that it has had its problems, but still possible to be great if written well...

Two toxic people make for a toxic relationship which is exactly why they dont need to be together

[EmeraldGladiator]

By real world definitions what relationship isn't toxic in comics over an extended time, Orono and Forge, Remy and Rogue, Wolverine and Mariko, Kitty and Peter? They are all pretty toxic because they are made that way to create drama. Alex and Lorna are no more toxic than most.

[Rang10]

Two toxic people make for a toxic relationship which is exactly why they dont need to be together

Yeah, both have serious problems that they have to figure out alone.

[Havok83]

By real world definitions what relationship isn't toxic in comics over an extended time, Orono and Forge, Remy and Rogue, Wolverine and Mariko, Kitty and Peter? They are all pretty toxic because they are made that way to create drama. Alex and Lorna are no more toxic than most.

and with the exception of Remy and Rogue, none of these couples are together for obvious reasons.

[LoganAlpha30X33]

Only toxic with bad writing...good writing could have them great together...

[Chris0013]

Only toxic with bad writing...good writing could have them great together...

The problem is that one writer will get them together...and down the line another will break them up...and then another will get them together....and another will get them apart....

And I just get sick and tired of it. The MU needs more Reed and Sues. Couples that get together and stay together through all the ups and downs.

[LAWtoyoto 432]

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Well, is this really how their relationship worked ?

[LoganAlpha30X33]

Not really as she uses her magic powers, and Chris, that could happen to any Marvel couple as well...

[Chris0013]

Not really as she uses her magic powers, and Chris, that could happen to any Marvel couple as well...

That is pretty much what happens to every couple. It is like the writers or editors DON"T want to show healthy stable relationships. Guess there is more drama is screwed up people screwing their lives up even more.