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    Quote Originally Posted by vitaminbee View Post
    Because it's not the comics....? These are adaptions and things change between the source and what is up on screen .
    I know. It just seems like a radical departure.

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    Agatha also might grow over time to not be a villain. She was indirectly very helpful and earlier very valid about wanting to shake Wanda from her dream world. And she was the only one to really get through to her. There is some potential there for her to not be all bad.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GenericUsername View Post
    Agatha also might grow over time to not be a villain. She was indirectly very helpful and earlier very valid about wanting to shake Wanda from her dream world. And she was the only one to really get through to her. There is some potential there for her to not be all bad.
    That's possible

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    Quote Originally Posted by GenericUsername View Post
    Agatha also might grow over time to not be a villain. She was indirectly very helpful and earlier very valid about wanting to shake Wanda from her dream world. And she was the only one to really get through to her. There is some potential there for her to not be all bad.
    True. We dont know what motivates her other than wanting access to more magic. She's existed for centuries but we can assume she's been lowkey. She doesnt appear to be out for world domination or is inherently evil. It seems like she was just minding her own business until she sensed the chaos magic and wanted access to it for herself but the show didnt expand upon what she would do with that

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    Quote Originally Posted by Havok83 View Post
    True. We dont know what motivates her other than wanting access to more magic. She's existed for centuries but we can assume she's been lowkey. She doesnt appear to be out for world domination or is inherently evil. It seems like she was just minding her own business until she sensed the chaos magic and wanted access to it for herself but the show didnt expand upon what she would do with that
    Her choking the kids and killing the dog was pretty rough, though

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mik View Post
    Her choking the kids and killing the dog was pretty rough, though
    The kids weren't real though. Agatha merely used them as a pawn to get Wanda to use her magic

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mik View Post
    I know. It just seems like a radical departure.
    Man, you should see what they did with Yondu and the Nova Corps.
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    We don't know yet if the kids are real. Their spirits have lived on it seems, unless that's a trick.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Triniking1234 View Post
    Man, you should see what they did with Yondu and the Nova Corps.
    So much truth, lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GenericUsername View Post
    So much truth, lol.
    That's true. I guess Yondu and Agatha are D-listers, so not as many care. But Nova Corps is more B-list, and has lots of fans, I think

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    Quote Originally Posted by Havok83 View Post
    The kids weren't real though.
    Yeah, they were? They had independent thought. They were as real as Vision.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LordUltimus View Post
    Yeah, they were? They had independent thought. They were as real as Vision.
    I mean, it's still creepy to attack them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LordUltimus View Post
    Yeah, they were? They had independent thought. They were as real as Vision.
    Vision wasnt real either. They all were magical constructs

    Quote Originally Posted by GenericUsername View Post
    We don't know yet if the kids are real. Their spirits have lived on it seems, unless that's a trick.
    We know that they were magical constructs and therefore I dont consider them real. Agatha knew this. I felt more bad for her nearly dropping the soldiers than straddling 2 magical constructs by the neck
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    They were, as far as we can tell, sentient and had independent. While they couldn't exist without the Hex, I'm not sure that makes them not "real." Of course, I guess it depends on the definition, but needing a special condition to survive isn't in my mind what determines that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowedeyes View Post
    They were, as far as we can tell, sentient and had independent. While they couldn't exist without the Hex, I'm not sure that makes them not "real." Of course, I guess it depends on the definition, but needing a special condition to survive isn't in my mind what determines that.
    my thing is if Agatha were to kill them, so what? They seized to exist anyway when the Hex spell was over bc they didnt truly exist. They were Wanda's fantasy brought to life by chaos magic

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