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    Quote Originally Posted by Rang10 View Post
    HoM barely have anything to do with Wanda and Wandavision. I can't careless about casuals
    But marvel does cause that is where the money lies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rang10 View Post
    Mutants were never really important to Wanda, MCU did the right thing
    The MCU didn't do anything. They didn't have a choice in the matter.

    It's not like Wanda's introduction and presentation was something they made with all options on table. No they went with what the cards they were dealt with at the time.

    Now Feige in WV is obviously reshuffling the cards and drawing a new game, this time cutting a new pack of cards. He retconned Wanda's origin to show they were magical all along.

    Wanda's parents in the show have entirely different names and backgrounds than the Non-Magneto and Magda parents in the 616 Continuity. Rather than have her be the daughter of Golden Age Marvel supers, or Django and Marya Maximoff, the MCU had the parents be Oleg and Irina and had them played by rando extras (who to be honest don't really look like Wanda and Pietro if you compare them).

    So it would be easy to say that Wanda and Pietro were adopted and their real biological parents were...dun dun dun...Mag-f--king-Neto and Magda.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Journey View Post
    But marvel does cause that is where the money lies.
    Just sell the hardcovers. They will continue to make money

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    It's infamous for Wanda because most don't realize her lack of presence in the actual story.
    They never read hahah and just want the part "no more mutants"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Revolutionary_Jack View Post
    The MCU didn't do anything. They didn't have a choice in the matter.

    It's not like Wanda's introduction and presentation was something they made with all options on table. No they went with what the cards they were dealt with at the time.

    Now Feige in WV is obviously reshuffling the cards and drawing a new game, this time cutting a new pack of cards. He retconned Wanda's origin to show they were magical all along.

    Wanda's parents in the show have entirely different names and backgrounds than the Non-Magneto and Magda parents in the 616 Continuity. Rather than have her be the daughter of Golden Age Marvel supers, or Django and Marya Maximoff, the MCU had the parents be Oleg and Irina and had them played by rando extras (who to be honest don't really look like Wanda and Pietro if you compare them).

    So it would be easy to say that Wanda and Pietro were adopted and their real biological parents were...dun dun dun...Mag-f--king-Neto and Magda.
    They don't need to go down that retcon path of playing wheel of parents. It's made her origins in comics so confusing to people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Revolutionary_Jack View Post
    If only there were a mutant with magic powers, even named Magic (with a K because it's cool) who has already been cast and played by a Golden Globe winning actress, and who she in current comics is a colleage with on a magic team? If only there was someone like that? Oh wait...



    There are plenty of stories with Scarlet Witch and Pietro in the X-Men continuity. In adaptations, like the X-Men cartoons from 1992 to X-Men Evolution to Wolverine and the X-Men (produced by Kevin Feige by the way) she's shown and featured as a mutant character.

    The fact is Olsen's Wanda is now a popular character and as a Infinity Saga survivor she can be an anchor point for the coming expansions of the MCU.



    A) Wanda doesn't have a lot of lore to start with.

    B) The biggest story of her entire publication history -- House of M -- was very much an X-Men story, about mutantkind, rather than the Avengers. The biggest most consequential footprint she ever made in comics' continuity was in the X-Men lore. (Not that I think or expect she will play a similar role in the MCU).

    C) All her cartoon adaptations have been as an X-Men character.
    Dude, you are really trying hard here to dimiss Wanda's personal stories and history and try to frame her literal worst story ever as something desirable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Revolutionary_Jack View Post
    The MCU didn't do anything. They didn't have a choice in the matter.

    It's not like Wanda's introduction and presentation was something they made with all options on table. No they went with what the cards they were dealt with at the time.

    Now Feige in WV is obviously reshuffling the cards and drawing a new game, this time cutting a new pack of cards. He retconned Wanda's origin to show they were magical all along.

    Wanda's parents in the show have entirely different names and backgrounds than the Non-Magneto and Magda parents in the 616 Continuity. Rather than have her be the daughter of Golden Age Marvel supers, or Django and Marya Maximoff, the MCU had the parents be Oleg and Irina and had them played by rando extras (who to be honest don't really look like Wanda and Pietro if you compare them).

    So it would be easy to say that Wanda and Pietro were adopted and their real biological parents were...dun dun dun...Mag-f--king-Neto and Magda.
    They already decided what they wanted, they could wait to introduce Wanda. It's already DONE

    Movies aren't like comics, it is clar they are their birth parents and they aren't mutants. No need to get convoluted like comics.
    i really like that MCU is very straightforward

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    Quote Originally Posted by Journey View Post
    They could say mags was a Male Cougar not like that wouldn't be true!
    But not everybody's like your horny and fertile uncle! Most dudes at that age are not capable of doing what he's done. And even you thought what your uncle did was sick. So will MCU fans. Do you really want Wanda's old man to look like Tony Bennett?

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    In the grand scheme of things Wanda's presence or lack there of in HoM is insignificant it's still her most popular showing & infamous amongst both casuals and fans for one reason or another it always will be, people will always relate her back to this story for 1 reason or another, I don't make the rules it just is what it is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Albert1981 View Post
    But not everybody's like your horny and fertile uncle! Most dudes at that age are not capable of doing what he's done. And even you thought what your uncle did was sick. So will MCU fans. Do you really want Wanda's old man to look like Tony Bennett?
    I keep forgetting I told you that **** about my uncle lmao now let's not act like Mags won't be a silver fox!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Revolutionary_Jack View Post
    The MCU didn't do anything. They didn't have a choice in the matter.

    It's not like Wanda's introduction and presentation was something they made with all options on table. No they went with what the cards they were dealt with at the time.

    Now Feige in WV is obviously reshuffling the cards and drawing a new game, this time cutting a new pack of cards. He retconned Wanda's origin to show they were magical all along.

    Wanda's parents in the show have entirely different names and backgrounds than the Non-Magneto and Magda parents in the 616 Continuity. Rather than have her be the daughter of Golden Age Marvel supers, or Django and Marya Maximoff, the MCU had the parents be Oleg and Irina and had them played by rando extras (who to be honest don't really look like Wanda and Pietro if you compare them).

    So it would be easy to say that Wanda and Pietro were adopted and their real biological parents were...dun dun dun...Mag-f--king-Neto and Magda.
    They raised the twins, they are functionally MCU's Django and Marya, the same cannot be said for Magneto.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Journey View Post
    In the grand scheme of things Wanda's presence or lack there of in HoM is insignificant it's still her most popular showing & infamous amongst both casuals and fans for one reason or another it always will be, people will always relate her back to this story for 1 reason or another, I don't make the rules it just is what it is.
    The particulars do matter because there isn't much story content there for her. Which is why they used so little of it for reference in her show. It's mainly about how mutants become depowered. And if it weren't for it being a story about them, it would be about as known as Darker than Scarlet in Avengers West Coast. It's not that known because of Wanda.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Albert1981 View Post
    I think it would be tricky to retcon Magneto into being Wanda's father at this point for two main reasons. First, if the MCU wants to maintain Erik's origins as a Holocaust survivor, it would strain credulity for folks to believe that he could actually be her old man.
    The X-Continuity explained that Magneto had been de-aged several times. This was covered a long time ago.

    It's just too hard for me to understand how they can square that circle.
    They retconned their entire universe so that Captain Marvel was around the whole time, the whole time, made it so that Avengers 1 wasn't Fury's first contact with aliens, made it so that Iron Man wasn't in fact the first superhero in the MCU modern era.

    The MCU don't let circles bother them.

    Secondly, Pietro was a HUGE part of the dynamic between the Maximoff twins and Magneto.
    They can simply resurrect Aaron Taylor Johnson's Pietro, and Magneto would be the one to do it. Heck you can even use Krakoa Resurrection and sell that by bringing Pietro back out of Arbor Magna.

    Quote Originally Posted by GenericUsername View Post
    She has over 1200 issues of lore they can comb through.
    Lol, no she doesn't. The Avengers have never hit 1200 issues to start with, and she was absent and a no-show for several stretches of that.

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    They don't need to go down that retcon path of playing wheel of parents. It's made her origins in comics so confusing to people.
    The show has said that Wanda has a big mystery tied to her. That she has magic powers she doesn't know about and she had it since birth. Her parents are rando nobodies she's lost. So when they do the Magneto reveal, it'd be way less confusing than in the comics. And let's get one thing clear...the comics weren't confusing. It was made so for corpo reasons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Journey View Post
    I keep forgetting I told you that **** about my uncle lmao now let's not act like Mags won't be a silver fox!
    Mags is waaay too jacked in the comic books for his age. It's ridiculous! People would never buy it in live-action.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Journey View Post
    In the grand scheme of things Wanda's presence or lack there of in HoM is insignificant it's still her most popular showing & infamous amongst both casuals and fans for one reason or another it always will be, people will always relate her back to this story for 1 reason or another, I don't make the rules it just is what it is.
    Which is unfortunate and proof why this relationship is either pointless or harmful.
    This fact is an obstacle this character will have to overcome.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Revolutionary_Jack View Post
    The X-Continuity explained that Magneto had been de-aged several times. This was covered a long time ago.



    They retconned their entire universe so that Captain Marvel was around the whole time, the whole time, made it so that Avengers 1 wasn't Fury's first contact with aliens, made it so that Iron Man wasn't in fact the first superhero in the MCU modern era.

    The MCU don't let circles bother them.



    They can simply resurrect Aaron Taylor Johnson's Pietro, and Magneto would be the one to do it. Heck you can even use Krakoa Resurrection and sell that by bringing Pietro back out of Arbor Magna.



    Lol, no she doesn't. The Avengers have never hit 1200 issues to start with, and she was absent and a no-show for several stretches of that.



    The show has said that Wanda has a big mystery tied to her. That she has magic powers she doesn't know about and she had it since birth. Her parents are rando nobodies she's lost. So when they do the Magneto reveal, it'd be way less confusing than in the comics. And let's get one thing clear...the comics weren't confusing. It was made so for corpo reasons.
    I didn't say she was in 1200 Avengers issues. Just comics issues, period. Not all of them were Avengers in total.

    The mystery is the power of chaos magic itself. They described it later as divine. She got a blessing and a magical transformation. She'll now go and learn more about that chaos magic and how to control it.
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