It sort of is, but grief does that to people. Hawkeye is trying to make sense of a world that simply cannot make sense anymore, since his family is gone. He chooses to do so by inflicting pain and death on those who, in his mind, should have been destroyed by the Snap instead of the good people like his wife and kids who should have been spared. Unlike Wanda, who retreats into memories of family and the dream of a happy and perfect suburban life in an attempt to hide from her pain, Clint unleashes his pain on others. He drowns himself in it until there is nothing of the good man he was left within him, doing terrible and unjustifiable things and knowing full well that he will only feel terrible about it later. He doesn't want to stop hurting, he doesn't want his pain to end. Because his pain is his connection to what he has lost. So he feeds his pain with rage and guilt to stoke it like a fire and keep it burning.
All I can say is that if Charlie Cox is just "stunt casting" in Spider-Man 3, I think the **** will REALLY hit the fan.
In other words, man pain > woman pain.
A white dude goes on a rampage to murder foreign non-white gangsters in Mexico and Japan solely to find bodies he can pump through with holes is noble and tragic. But one woman, a foreign immigrant, coming in and accidentally using her abilities which doesn't kill anyone or permanently transform anything, is "future Thanos".
Indeed you are very right, when you see this episodes clips over and over agian in the reactions the View Me and You Drops Of Venus and other like ZeroBG82 put so well just keeps adding up to these views. I get more and more what the writers where trying to get at with Wanda, not as bad but as we are talking about right now and how we feel about how she was truly supposed to be viewed by the writers.
But as always story and characters will click differently with differnt people, but I keep going around the net and STILL all I keep seeing is Love for Wanda, not as much debate as we have here on CBR. Yea it is around but not as much as I thought, mostly this show has been a Hit for Wanda!
It is also very good to talk to you Drops Of Venus, Very Happy to hear your support and fandom love for Wanda!
"By Earth and Sky, By Craft and Hex -- By The Past and The Future I Call HOPE Forth From The DARKNESS! I Speak The Words We Made Into MAGIC! Let THEIR Power Augment Our OWN! To Strike ONE BLOW From Our HEARTS and SOULS From ALL THAT WE ARE! Let The CALL Go Forth -- AVENGERS! ASSEMBLE!" Scarlet Witch/Wanda Maximoff ~~ From Avengers #689!
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"By Earth and Sky, By Craft and Hex -- By The Past and The Future I Call HOPE Forth From The DARKNESS! I Speak The Words We Made Into MAGIC! Let THEIR Power Augment Our OWN! To Strike ONE BLOW From Our HEARTS and SOULS From ALL THAT WE ARE! Let The CALL Go Forth -- AVENGERS! ASSEMBLE!" Scarlet Witch/Wanda Maximoff ~~ From Avengers #689!
Come Join and Learn about Wanda Maximoff at: The Scarlet Witch Appreciation Thread 2023!
Hawkeye, Winter Soldier and Black Widow have plenty of blood on their hands.
Does anyone else hope her costume becomes a brighter red, the current color is too Foxneto for me
Yep i get that concern, but I don't worry so much about such bridges until their is a good amount of evidance to say so. So Far All I saw was Wanda Looking like her weird yet classic self trying to learn how to control her powers and the book was the only key she had at that moment.
So Yea I say as my philosophy, try not to be so concerned over that of which has not be concluded to happen yet, just take the best you have now and work with it while adding on as much knowledge as you can to enjoy your favorites like Wanda.
"By Earth and Sky, By Craft and Hex -- By The Past and The Future I Call HOPE Forth From The DARKNESS! I Speak The Words We Made Into MAGIC! Let THEIR Power Augment Our OWN! To Strike ONE BLOW From Our HEARTS and SOULS From ALL THAT WE ARE! Let The CALL Go Forth -- AVENGERS! ASSEMBLE!" Scarlet Witch/Wanda Maximoff ~~ From Avengers #689!
Come Join and Learn about Wanda Maximoff at: The Scarlet Witch Appreciation Thread 2023!
Well for one, the Yakuza and cartels are not random innocent civilians being tortured, like the people of Westview, to start.
It's also clearly not accidental at a certain point. We know Wanda is controlling the actions of the people of the town at will, both the townspeople and Wanda say so.
Well, I suspect the fact that dude uses a sword while the woman rewrites reality at a whim may be playing into that attitude a bit as well.
But yeah, if people are willing to forgive Hawkeye because he tried to throw himself off a cliff on Vormir, then forviging Wanda should be a no brainer.
Not to mention the fact that three weeks prior to these events Wanda chose to sacrifice the man she loved in an attempt to save half of all life in the universe. If an act of such purely, unselfish heroism doesn't reveal your true colors, I don't know what will. Again, not looking to excuse her actions in Westview. Just that I think somebody is more than their mistakes, even their biggest ones.
Yeah, but Hawkeye made a conscious choice, and continued making that choice FOR 5 YEARS. Wanda did something inadvertently, and then let herself get blinded by overwhelming emotions. It took her, what, less than a week to realize that she was doing the wrong thing and instantly take action to attempt to remedy it?
Last edited by ZeroBG82; 03-05-2021 at 09:20 PM.