Wandavision

**teapartyofthedead** · 02-19-2021, 01:38 AM

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Well, if nothing else, that ending clears up who has been behind it all along, if not why. Either that, or Agnes is also under control while controlling Wanda. Unless I’m mistaken, that could be the Darkhold Wanda found in the basement. This may be a large part of why Wanda is brushing off so much about all this, including Billy having trouble with telepathy. Also, there is a mid-credit scene at the 31:52 mark. Is this Quicksilver in league with Agnes? Or is he also under mind control to distract Wanda?

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**GenericUsername** · 02-19-2021, 01:51 AM

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I sure hope that Agatha is being controlled. It's excited to see the Darkhold.

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**teapartyofthedead** · 02-19-2021, 02:08 AM

Originally Posted by GenericUsername

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I sure hope that Agatha is being controlled. It's excited to see the Darkhold.

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Maybe next week will show those leaked photos with Agnes with a coven. That should get to the heart of things now that we’re so close to the end. It’s very exciting to see Wanda’s path as a witch starting. But without her traditional mentor, who is going to show her how to fine control her magic after the fallout? Is that what Strange is supposed to do? I really don’t like the idea of Agnes being made the villain just to give Strange her mentor role.

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**GenericUsername** · 02-19-2021, 02:11 AM

Originally Posted by teapartyofthedead

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Maybe next week will show those leaked photos with Agnes with a coven. That should get to the heart of things now that we’re so close to the end. It’s very exciting to see Wanda’s path as a witch starting. But without her traditional mentor, who is going to show her how to fine control her magic after the fallout? Is that what Strange is supposed to do? I really don’t like the idea of Agnes being made the villain just to give Strange her mentor role.

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Me either. I hope she's just possessed atm. And will be broken free.

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**Ferro** · 02-19-2021, 02:47 AM

redacted has taken her spot on iconic campy witchy performances, next to hocus pocus, death becomes her, sharon needles, Elvira, vampirella,the love witch, The witches (anne hatheway too) , american horror story coven
AND every helena bohan carter performance ever

**Wiccan** · 02-19-2021, 03:10 AM

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Yeah it's sad but I have no hope of Agatha not being evil

I think at best she's not the main villain and is working for someone like Mephisto/Nightmare who might be Ralph. Maybe they'll make her sympathetic with her backstory and all. But she's not gonna have the kind of relationship she and Wanda have in the comics... It does seem like they're taking away her mentor role to give it to Strange which is disappointing and lowkey sexist.

Kathryn Hahn is great as a campy evil witch though. So it was pretty entertaining. I can't forget the "And I killed Sparky too!"

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**vitaminbee** · 02-19-2021, 03:24 AM

Originally Posted by Wiccan

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Yeah it's sad but I have no hope of Agatha not being evil

I think at best she's not the main villain and is working for someone like Mephisto/Nightmare who might be Ralph. Maybe they'll make her sympathetic with her backstory and all. But she's not gonna have the kind of relationship she and Wanda have in the comics... It does seem like they're taking away her mentor role to give it to Strange which is disappointing and lowkey sexist.

Kathryn Hahn is great as a campy evil witch though. So it was pretty entertaining. I can't forget the "And I killed Sparky too!"

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I think this is a bit of a reach and a bit of a jump to a conclusion with where the episode left us. Even if it’s the truth, the MCU is an adaption and not Watchmen movie sort of situation.

**MaximoffTrash** · 02-19-2021, 03:41 AM

It would be somewhat tolerable if they don't immediately let an old dude come along and be her savior/mentor instead.
That would be offensive as F.

**GenericUsername** · 02-19-2021, 03:45 AM

Originally Posted by Wiccan

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Yeah it's sad but I have no hope of Agatha not being evil

I think at best she's not the main villain and is working for someone like Mephisto/Nightmare who might be Ralph. Maybe they'll make her sympathetic with her backstory and all. But she's not gonna have the kind of relationship she and Wanda have in the comics... It does seem like they're taking away her mentor role to give it to Strange which is disappointing and lowkey sexist.

Kathryn Hahn is great as a campy evil witch though. So it was pretty entertaining. I can't forget the "And I killed Sparky too!"

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I think it's possible she read the Darkhold and became possessed.

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**gurkle** · 02-19-2021, 03:46 AM

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Personally I think showing Agatha as the villain is another misdirection like “It’s all Wanda” meant it wasn’t all Wanda.

Killing the dog (which many people suspected when that episode aired) reminds me of Agatha killing her cat in Vision’s series to get a glimpse of the future. Agatha does creepy things and has her own agenda but isn’t necessarily doing it for evil purposes.

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**Doom'nGloom** · 02-19-2021, 04:01 AM

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Agatha may not be the main antagonist. If she's evil she'd have dealt with Monica when she had the chance. It's probable that something is messing with her.

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**James Hunter** · 02-19-2021, 04:34 AM

Originally Posted by teapartyofthedead

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Well, if nothing else, that ending clears up who has been behind it all along, if not why. Either that, or Agnes is also under control while controlling Wanda. Unless I’m mistaken, that could be the Darkhold Wanda found in the basement. This may be a large part of why Wanda is brushing off so much about all this, including Billy having trouble with telepathy. Also, there is a mid-credit scene at the 31:52 mark. Is this Quicksilver in league with Agnes? Or is he also under mind control to distract Wanda?

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I think that's the Darkhold too which leads into a question I had, how do we think Agatha ended up with the Darkhold? I last remember seeing it in AGENTS OF S.HI.E.L.D season 4 but can't remember what happened to it there. With regards to "Quicksilver" I get the impression he's not in league with Agnes/Agatha but a seperate problem entirely

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**Daedra** · 02-19-2021, 04:55 AM

I have to wonder if "redacted" has a link to Latveria and Doom

**CJStriker** · 02-19-2021, 05:38 AM

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This Show is good, it litterly did a turn on a Dime moment from ME "Being Most Worried for Wanda" to Now Being Most Worried about Agatha, Well Played Show!

But Honestly if this show has tought us ANYTHING is that never fully trust all you see and all you hear, espically when THAT book is around which I would say is likely the Darkhold as well.

I think this Gives ALLOT more credit to all those "Devil in the Detail" points allot more that where being hinted at, also Ralph as well, much more credance to Ralph.

So I think this is just likely an Entry to more to come, that Agatha hopefully can be as much a pawn in this with Ralph, Devil in the Details and the Darkhold things around still.

So Lets wait and see.

Also I just got Anime/Sailor Moon Smiley When Agatha Said "Magical Girl" calling themselve that! ^_^

Also, I think maybe this might make Evans have more likelihood and hoping he was Pulled from the Foxverse too, Hoping at least.

Also Evans at the end, 1 Sentence and he NAILS Creepy! Seriously Watch American Horror Story with him.

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**I'm a Fish** · 02-19-2021, 05:41 AM

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I think next episode is going to be an Agatha episode, since at the end of this episode she kind of hijacked the show and had her own title song.

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