Black Adam vs. Jiren. Who wins?
Black Adam vs. Jiren. Who wins?
Jiren is significantly stronger than SSBE Vegeta and SSBKK Goku, who are themselves significantly, massively stronger than SSG Goku, who was himself in a dustup that threatened to destroy the universe. Jiren is also stronger than a god of destruction, and thus probably all of them.
Jiren could likely meditate/nap through anything Adam can dish. Adam, on the other hand, dies instantly to anything Jiren wants to dish out.
"But... But I want to be a big karate cyborg... ;_;" - Nik Hasta
"Get off my lawn! ...on this forum, that just makes people think of Cyclops." - Sharpandpointies
"...makes me think the Night King just says "Screw the rules, I have magic money" when it comes to physics." -Captain Morgan
"But... But I want to be a big karate cyborg... ;_;" - Nik Hasta
"Get off my lawn! ...on this forum, that just makes people think of Cyclops." - Sharpandpointies
"...makes me think the Night King just says "Screw the rules, I have magic money" when it comes to physics." -Captain Morgan
Yep. Like Vegeta, way back in the Saiyan Saga, tried to blow up the Earth and ended up in that now famous beam struggle against Goku. From there, things only escalated. Freeza, obviously. Perfect Cell threatened the entire solar system (no reason to doubt him at that point). Buu was a proven planet destroyer and a universal menace...
Yeah.
And yet things like heart disease and lack of air can still kill them. It is weird.
Did Adam get a MASSIVE powerup? He's never been even a planet buster before, and that's barely a workout for end-of-Z Vegeta and Goku. Either can kind of trivially one-shot Adam, from what I understand of his abilities. If he's received a massive powerup, I retract the statement, I'm going on what I know and have heard.
"But... But I want to be a big karate cyborg... ;_;" - Nik Hasta
"Get off my lawn! ...on this forum, that just makes people think of Cyclops." - Sharpandpointies
"...makes me think the Night King just says "Screw the rules, I have magic money" when it comes to physics." -Captain Morgan
That's a question; I'm aware that Superman has been given a buff generally in recent years, right? So, have there been any confrontations with Black Adam or Shazam/Captain Marvel to scale them appropriately?
Also, with the whole continuity thing, does the "broadly his equal," thing from the Post Crisis-era stuff still apply?
I would say a big fat ‘no’ to the latter thing. Nu- and then Rebirth versions of DC characters are explicitly different to post-Crisis, and, depending on the character in question, have been either wildly more powerful, significantly nerfed, broadly similar or have a different power-set entirely.
Post-Crisis equivalency is meaningless in Rebirth DC.
Well, my clarification might actually have muddied things.
From what I understand, Rebirth is largely a kind of merging of post-Crisis and Nu-DC (and even that is probably only applicable for some characters, like Superman, but not necessarily all), but given there was massive discrepancy in Nu-DC, there’s still a discrepancy in Rebirth. Only sometimes it’s more so, sometimes less so, and sometimes completely different again.
DC Continuity: Don’t try to understand it.
Down that path lies madness. And Donna Troy, Hawkman and Captain Atom / Monarch / Breach etc.