What happen if Jean Grey was potrayed by a black woman ?

[Omega Alpha]

Again, if Jean Grey is not a red-headed white woman, how do you even identify her as Jean Grey rather than a brand new character? She doesn't have an iconic costume or trait that makes her easily recognizable, like wings or adamantium claws. It's also not like they're going to rehash the Phoenix again. Might as well make a new character.

[Devaishwarya]

A lot of people complain about White Jesus, though. So...

And just because the writers haven't deemed it important enough to explore in-story...doesn't make it Unimportant. In real life...would you go to your White friends/acquaintances and say their "history and roots" are not important or as important as yours?

[jwatson]

Again, if Jean Grey is not a red-headed white woman, how do you even identify her as Jean Grey rather than a brand new character? She doesn't have an iconic costume or trait that makes her easily recognizable, like wings or adamantium claws. It's also not like they're going to rehash the Phoenix again. Might as well make a new character.

when you see Jean you don't see telepathic telekinetic woman who suffered the lost of her best friend at a young age resulting in her powers awakening. You see a redheaded white woman. Then Jean could literally be anybody. A white woman cast as jean with a completely different story would be more jean than a black woman with the exact story pulled from the comics? Well ok. I mean you just described Mary Jane, Black Widow, Scarlet Witch in the MCU.

[Triniking1234]

Most of Jack Kirby's characters are white. If people want the movie versions to look like how they did in the comic, then

(1) cope; or

(2) cope.

[Nobodyworthnoting]

??? You need to relax and actually think, no one is changing jean's skin color...
the hypothetical was if they changed jean's color. There was no reason behind it, so asking "what's the point?" is quite ironically pointless. Because it simply happened.
Maybe during casting,they pick a black person as she has all the qualitites to be jean grey.

[jwatson]

A lot of people complain about White Jesus, though. So...

And just because the writers haven't deemed it important enough to explore in-story...doesn't make it Unimportant. In real life...would you go to your White friends/acquaintances and say their "history and roots" are not important or as
as yours?

And what are Jean's history and roots. people seem to be dancing around the material.

White people have been race bending for years now there is a problem. Personally i find it entertaining especially since disney is going to do what they want any.

And to answer your question yes i would, some people need to be told their history isn't as important like the confederate traitors for instance.

[Omega Alpha]

when you see Jean you don't see telepathic telekinetic woman who suffered the lost of her best friend at a young age resulting in her powers awakening. You see a redheaded white woman. Then Jean could literally be anybody. A white woman cast as jean with a completely different story would be more jean than a black woman with the exact story pulled from the comics? Well ok.

A white redheaded woman written with a completely different background and personality would also not be very identifiable as Jean Grey, though at least she would be recognizable.

Also, as far as "developed her powers when her friend died" is not that big of a backstory, the movies didn't even use it.

[jpmst17]

??? You need to relax and actually think, no one is changing jean's skin color...
the hypothetical was if they changed jean's color. There was no reason behind it, so asking "what's the point?" is quite ironically pointless. Because it simply happened.
Maybe during casting,they pick a black person as she has all the qualitites to be jean grey.

but why would they look for a poc for a white character? and again, this is just a conversation, no need to freak out on everyone you disagree with.

[Triniking1234]

Also what's with all this "there's plenty of red-heads" nonsense?

They're pretty uncommon even among the white people in Hollywood.

Ben Affleck and the Daredevil from the Hulk TV movie weren't red-heads.

Kristen Dunst and Amber Heard had to dye their hair.

What's her name and Sophie Turner aren't red heads.

[Nobodyworthnoting]

So a White person's/character's history and roots is not important to them too? Or, is it not as important as a Black person's/character's?
THAT sounds rather questionable from a racial perspective, to me.

I give value to the person/character which happens to also include their White skin. Or their Black skin. Or their Brown skin. So yes. Yes, I do.

Can you even name me one important character trait of a white character simply for being white?? You can have traits based on "culture" but that culture is always dependent on the country and not on skin colour, Like you can have italian culture but even then thats not related to race as even black and asians are part of italian culture.

[jwatson]

??? You need to relax and actually think, no one is changing jean's skin color...
the hypothetical was if they changed jean's color. There was no reason behind it, so asking "what's the point?" is quite ironically pointless. Because it simply happened.
Maybe during casting,they pick a black person as she has all the qualitites to be jean grey.

It's very likely they will. The MCU is a shared universe and they went in strong with the white characters at the beginning and there was just a capital storming. Now just looking at it from a purely economic standpoint it doesn't make a lot of sense to add another white red head to your cast when you have scarlet witch with her own show and a secure place in the movies and a black widow movie upcoming, you just open yourself up for stuff. Most likely part of the reason they are playing with phoenix now so they can figure out how to introduce it into the mcu sans jean.

[Nobodyworthnoting]

Most of Jack Kirby's characters are white. If people want the movie versions to look like how they did in the comic, then

(1) cope; or

(2) cope.

oh, here we go. So you regocnise that by design black characters were kept out of comics, but your answer is "deal with it"??? lmao

[jpmst17]

It's very likely they will. The MCU is a shared universe and they went in strong with the white characters at the beginning and there was just a capital storming. Now just looking at it from a purely economic standpoint it doesn't make a lot of sense to add another white red head to your cast when you have scarlet witch with her own show and a secure place in the movies and a black widow movie upcoming, you just open yourself up for stuff. Most likely part of the reason they are playing with phoenix now so they can figure out how to introduce it into the mcu sans jean.

jean is a white woman with red hair. you shouldn't change it simply because there were other white women with red hair. There is literally nothing about bishop that says he needs to be black. or jubilee needing to be asian. storm and black panther have african roots, so they need to be black, but other than that, there are very few characters that need to be their race. the fact remains that these characters have been depicted this way on screen for over 30 years. changing it for the sake of it is just dumb

[Nobodyworthnoting]

but why would they look for a poc for a white character? and again, this is just a conversation, no need to freak out on everyone you disagree with.

Because being white is not essential to the character at all, So the skin color of the actor wouldn't really matter.

[jwatson]

oh, here we go. So you regocnise that by design black characters were kept out of comics, but your answer is "deal with it"??? lmao

It's all part of the glass ceiling. They were all made white in a different time so lets keep them that way. No how about we pull all of their original character biographies and read which ones say specifically this character needs to be white. They are adapting a concept not actual stories. The hyporcisy is something else though. It's okay for a white woman to be in and asian body so i guess the best way around this is to have Jean Grey's best friend be black and when she is hit by the car Jean jumps in her body and never makes it back. Surely a white woman in the body of a black woman should make it jean since it's not literally a black jean.