The short-lived and underappreciated DC Comics discussion

[Zero Hunter]

I really though this series had so much potential to show the cosmic DC from another angle. Seeing the way they modernized characters like Space Cabbie, Space Ranger (Rik Starr), and others was fantastic.

[Robanker]

While I did enjoy Palmiotti and Conner's run, I actually may have liked Winick and Basri's better... (blasphemy, I know ).

If I recall, they toned down the Looney Tunes and bawdy humor Palmiotti and Conner have become known for so I can see that being a big sell. I think I was too fargone on Winick from butchering Green Arrow for years to be really fair to the back half of that run. Yet another thing I need to read when I finally have some time. These books are really piling up!

[Zero Hunter]

This book should have lasted longer. To me it hit right in the middle of the previous books tone wise. It was not too mainstream but it was not to weird either. Giffen hit a very good mix between old and new. I think this is really the only Doom Patrol series that really melded all the previous versions into one.

[Zee_Fan]

From my username, I'm obviously biased but I'm bummed Zee's solo run only went 16 issues.

[SJNeal]

If I recall, they toned down the Looney Tunes and bawdy humor Palmiotti and Conner have become known for so I can see that being a big sell. I think I was too fargone on Winick from butchering Green Arrow for years to be really fair to the back half of that run. Yet another thing I need to read when I finally have some time. These books are really piling up!

I actually read his PG in trade, after the series had already been canceled. Those collections are long out of print, but the singles are readily available.

Winick was hit (Green Lantern) or miss (Green Arrow!) with me for a long time. But somewhere between projects like The Outsiders, Justice League: Generation Lost, GA/BC, and Blood + Water, he became a favorite for a good while. All that came crashing down with his New 52 Catwoman, however.

[SJNeal]

This book should have lasted longer. To me it hit right in the middle of the previous books tone wise. It was not too mainstream but it was not to weird either. Giffen hit a very good mix between old and new. I think this is really the only Doom Patrol series that really melded all the previous versions into one.

This run is second only to Morrison's! So damn good...

[Robanker]

This run is second only to Morrison's! So damn good...

Killed before its time and the Metal Men feature in the back? :Chef kiss:

I actually read his PG in trade, after the series had already been canceled. Those collections are long out of print, but the singles are readily available.

Winick was hit (Green Lantern) or miss (Green Arrow!) with me for a long time. But somewhere between projects like The Outsiders, Justice League: Generation Lost, GA/BC, and Blood + Water, he became a favorite for a good while. All that came crashing down with his New 52 Catwoman, however.

Oh, I collect that run. I've got every issue and trade except the March covers and even then, one day.

GA/BC was the only GA by him I remembered enjoying somewhat, though Kreisberg afterward was hot garbage. Outsiders I remember being uneven. Gen Lost I think I enjoyed? I dunno, it's all hazy. The best thing that man ever did was the Under the Hood animated film. He trimmed all the fat from his comic story and really delivered one banger of a story.

I've heard great things of Barry Ween, his non DC work.

[Tzigone]

The first runs of Booster Gold and Blue Beetle both come to mind. 24 and 25 issues, respectively.
Blue Devil was good and almost made it to 36 issues

I enjoyed all three of those. BG and BB, though I will definitely say I enjoyed the earlier stuff more than the later (both comics had some shifts that I can only presume happened because they were trying boost insufficient sales). All three characters went rather different directions later. Can't say I enjoyed them all. I was particularly annoyed at BD and his deal with the devil to be a star when he never actually wanted to be an actor in his own series (and was mildly annoyed but unsurprised at the retons vilifying Eddie's parents).

Despite being unimpressed by the plots, I really did like the character work in the 1980s Hawk and Dove.

[SJNeal]

Killed before its time and the Metal Men feature in the back? :Chef kiss:



Oh, I collect that run. I've got every issue and trade except the March covers and even then, one day.

GA/BC was the only GA by him I remembered enjoying somewhat, though Kreisberg afterward was hot garbage. Outsiders I remember being uneven. Gen Lost I think I enjoyed? I dunno, it's all hazy. The best thing that man ever did was the Under the Hood animated film. He trimmed all the fat from his comic story and really delivered one banger of a story.

I've heard great things of Barry Ween, his non DC work.

Never read any of his non-DC work tbh.

I just got the HC's of Generation Lost, so if you want my floppies they'll need a good home soon!

The less said about Kreisberg, the better...

[DrNewGod]

This book should have lasted longer. To me it hit right in the middle of the previous books tone wise. It was not too mainstream but it was not to weird either. Giffen hit a very good mix between old and new. I think this is really the only Doom Patrol series that really melded all the previous versions into one.

One thing that always got me about DP. Both they and Teen Titans were defunct when Wolfman and Perez started working at DC around 1980. I wonder what would have happened if DC had given them DP instead of the Titans.

[SJNeal]

One thing that always got me about DP. Both they and Teen Titans were defunct when Wolfman and Perez started working at DC around 1980. I wonder what would have happened if DC had given them DP instead of the Titans.

On one hand I'd kill to see what they'd have done! On the other, I think Wolfman may be a bit too traditional a writer; I'm not sure he would have captured the quirkiness I've come to expect from the DP.

[John Venus]

Speaking of Kriesenberg, I remember his GA/BC run getting dragged because of how it handled Black Canary. Almost like he had an intense dislike for the character. I wasn't surprised when Laurel on Arrow became one of the most disliked characters on the show considering he worked on those early seasons.

[SJNeal]

Speaking of Kriesenberg, I remember his GA/BC run getting dragged because of how it handled Black Canary. Almost like he had an intense dislike for the character. I wasn't surprised when Laurel on Arrow became one of the most disliked characters on the show considering he worked on those early seasons.

Oooh yeah! I didn't see the connection til you just mentioned it, but that would explain a lot about Laurel's treatment.

I know Katie Cassidy has also voiced some animosity between herself and Kreisberg, but how pathetic would it be if that stemmed from his dislike of a fictional character that she portrayed?

[Lee Stone]

I enjoyed all three of those. BG and BB, though I will definitely say I enjoyed the earlier stuff more than the later (both comics had some shifts that I can only presume happened because they were trying boost insufficient sales). All three characters went rather different directions later. Can't say I enjoyed them all. I was particularly annoyed at BD and his deal with the devil to be a star when he never actually wanted to be an actor in his own series (and was mildly annoyed but unsurprised at the retons vilifying Eddie's parents).

Despite being unimpressed by the plots, I really did like the character work in the 1980s Hawk and Dove.

Tasty Trivia:
They were planning to retire Ted and go a different direction with a new Blue Beetle, but then he became a JLI member and that book became a hit.
So the plans to kill him were scrapped and his book was just cancelled.

[Lee Stone]

One thing that always got me about DP. Both they and Teen Titans were defunct when Wolfman and Perez started working at DC around 1980. I wonder what would have happened if DC had given them DP instead of the Titans.

All four of the new members would've fit in Doom Patrol.
Well, Gar basically was a member for a while.
I could see it work.

The Doom Patrol brought back together to fight off Trigon?
How does that not sound like a perfect reason to reform?