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    Well, it happened... the NY Jets have traded Sam Darnold to the Carolina Panthers.

    In return the Jets got... a sixth round pick this year, and a 2nd and 3rd rounder in 2022.

    (LOL Jets)
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    Quote Originally Posted by worstblogever View Post
    Well, it happened... the NY Jets have traded Sam Darnold to the Carolina Panthers.

    In return the Jets got... a sixth round pick this year, and a 2nd and 3rd rounder in 2022.

    (LOL Jets)
    Just heard about the trade. I guess that was the best the Jets could get for Darnold. So, will there be a competition in Carolina, or will Teddy Bridgewater say "Screw this! I want out"?
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    Quote Originally Posted by worstblogever View Post
    Well, it happened... the NY Jets have traded Sam Darnold to the Carolina Panthers.

    In return the Jets got... a sixth round pick this year, and a 2nd and 3rd rounder in 2022.

    (LOL Jets)
    They weren't gonna get a 1st rd pick out of Darnold due to how badly things had gotten for him. I mean he had a QB rating of 72+ last season and looked pretty bad. A lot is on NY Jets and that terrible offense and players around him. Some is on Darnold who struggled at times as Romo and Aikman in games would bring up. To get 3 draft picks out of this is amazing.

    Quote Originally Posted by WestPhillyPunisher View Post
    Just heard about the trade. I guess that was the best the Jets could get for Darnold. So, will there be a competition in Carolina, or will Teddy Bridgewater say "Screw this! I want out"?
    From NFL.Com , the Panthers are expected to push Bridgewater to redo his contract or trade him. But the Panthers feel with 2 offensive masterminds they can unlock Darnold's once promising career.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SUPERECWFAN1 View Post
    They weren't gonna get a 1st rd pick out of Darnold due to how badly things had gotten for him. I mean he had a QB rating of 72+ last season and looked pretty bad. A lot is on NY Jets and that terrible offense and players around him. Some is on Darnold who struggled at times as Romo and Aikman in games would bring up. To get 3 draft picks out of this is amazing.
    While I don't disagree that 2,3, and 6 are good... it's the wait until NEXT year on the two and three that's the lousy part.
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    Quote Originally Posted by worstblogever View Post
    While I don't disagree that 2,3, and 6 are good... it's the wait until NEXT year on the two and three that's the lousy part.
    In watching there was a slim market for Darnold and the Jets knew that if the draft hit Carolina may have go in a QB direction. So they had to do this deal or likely have to keep Darnold and not get anything this season or next as there is no way they'd pick up his 5th year option.
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    So it will be 1-4 QB picks then the Bengals and Phins get a great player.
    Does Zack Wilson see the shitshow that is the Jets continue?
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    Quote Originally Posted by SUPERECWFAN1 View Post
    In watching there was a slim market for Darnold and the Jets knew that if the draft hit Carolina may have go in a QB direction. So they had to do this deal or likely have to keep Darnold and not get anything this season or next as there is no way they'd pick up his 5th year option.
    Yeah, the reality was it was a buyer's market for QB trades and free agency this offseason, and the Jets held out too long.

    They didn't nearly f*** up as bad as the Texans, who should have sold, sold, sold before DeShaun Watson's off-field issues made him toxic to anyone looking to trade.
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    The more I think upon Sam Darnold's time with the Jets, the more I think Super-E is right and they're lucky to have gotten 3 picks out of the deal, even IF two of them are for the 2022 draft.

    Darnold's most famous for two memes...

    Getting mono:


    Which THE PANTHERS REFERENCED TO ANNOUNCE THE TRADE, LOL.


    And of course, "Seeing Ghosts".



    At least he doesn't have the infamy of the last QB the Jets drafted before him for finishing his career with a Butt-Fumble on his resume, though.

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    What's really got me scratching my head is that Carolina is supposedly talking about trading away Teddy Bridgewater now that they got Darnold.

    It's like... you guys realize that would be a huge downgrade, right?
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    Darnold leaving New York is the best thing for him. Perhaps he'll resurrect his career in Carolina.

    Speaking of which, who do you think was the worst head coach in Jets history, Adam Gase or Rich Kotite?
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    Quote Originally Posted by WestPhillyPunisher View Post

    Speaking of which, who do you think was the worst head coach in Jets history, Adam Gase or Rich Kotite?

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    Quote Originally Posted by WestPhillyPunisher View Post
    Darnold leaving New York is the best thing for him. Perhaps he'll resurrect his career in Carolina.

    Speaking of which, who do you think was the worst head coach in Jets history, Adam Gase or Rich Kotite?
    I had someone the other day reflect on Kotite, and how his original press conference, he told the New York media "I'm not a genius..." and he noted he was "the guy who lost his last seven games in Philly"... really inspiring stuff. It also seemed like everyone within the Jets organization were saying, "This was Mr. Hess' decision", in regards to the owner. IMMEDIATELY. Like, it sounded like they knew it was gonna go badly, and didn't want any blame getting laid on them. Including that 7 game losing streak in his last few games in Philadelphia... Kotite lost 34 of his last 38 games as a head coach. The best quote on Kotite my friend has:

    Over the years I've convinced myself that Kotite couldn't really be evaluated as a coach because he was such a bad GM that he effectively destroyed his own team.
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    “We had circled Arizona on the calendar as a team we could definitely beat to get our first win,’’ Mickens said. “So we go there and win and we partied on the plane all the way home and when we got back to New York, Kotite got up in front of us Monday morning and said, ‘Guys, we’re still in this thing.’

    “I remember everyone looking around at each other and laughing,’’ Mickens said. “It was hysterical.’’

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    “At some point you have to be real and not pretend like everything is OK, because it’s not,’’ Jones said. “I can remember when Kotite would say, ‘OK, in a few weeks we’ll get everybody back from injuries and we can make a run.’ We’re like, ‘What? We’re [expletive] 1-8.’ People would say, ‘You’re the best 1-8 team in the league,’ but you know what, you’re 1-8 and you have to be real and say, ‘Hey, we’re not a very good team.’
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    A lowlight reel that notes that with almost the exact same players, Bill Parcells won 8 games the next year. Which isn't an indication that those players were not as bad, but just that Parcells can do more with less.



    Adam Gase, though... his opening press conference was a disaster because he seemed high as a kite. But he's the opposite of the above coach were he to have also been the GM. He lost the locker room fast, had players demanding to get traded away from him, and his own DC went rogue and did an all-out blitz when all they had to do was stop one TD pass in game against the Raiders. Kotite may have been bad, but Gase was bad AND the players all loathed him. Like, neither Gase nor Kotite had their players' respect... but I've read way too much about Gase just being an unlikable dumbass.
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    Quote Originally Posted by worstblogever View Post
    What's really got me scratching my head is that Carolina is supposedly talking about trading away Teddy Bridgewater now that they got Darnold.

    It's like... you guys realize that would be a huge downgrade, right?
    I know this McCaffrey guy at worst Jim Brown incarnate and at best the second coming but that's a lot of his power he's going to have to try and transfer into Darnold's body.



    Quote Originally Posted by WestPhillyPunisher View Post
    Darnold leaving New York is the best thing for him. Perhaps he'll resurrect his career in Carolina.

    Speaking of which, who do you think was the worst head coach in Jets history, Adam Gase or Rich Kotite?

    Yea I wish no ill on Darnold. You'd be hard pressed to find a worse situation, even in JETS history, to try to make it happen.

    Gase and Kotite both each have a pair of franchises crushed under their foot but Gase was worse because the JETS has employed them both. If you've had a Kotite previous and you've seen the bottom it shouldn't have gone down as bad as it has with Gase making his bottom that much worse.
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    The Jets offense put up huge yards and more but what was comical is by the 3rd/4th quarter a lot of their games was done. Teams to be merciful would send in backup players and they'd run the prevent defense more or less. I remember Joe Theisman pointed that out in a Sunday Night game I believe that the NY Jets were a bad football team and their offensive rankings was just a mirage given how terrible they were then.
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    I read somewhere that with the Darnold trade, the Jets have now traded away their last 6 1st round picks. That's some talent evaluation for you.

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