NFL 2021 Off-Season

[Deathstroke]

Adam Vinatieri is officially retiring.

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Man, I remember the mania that swept over me as this kick went through the uprights...

[SUPERECWFAN1]

24 seasons is a hell of a run but the writing seemed to be on the wall after 2019 that Vinatieri needed to call it a career after 24 seasons of football. He had accomplished so much and will likely be in Hall of Fame in 2025. I don't think anyone can debate he doesn't deserve the nod.


- Only kicker in NFL history with 250+ FG's with 2 teams. (336 Colts , 263 Patriots)
- #1 ranked in points as a kicker with 2,673 total (the closest one is Morton Anderson who had 2,544)
- Most FG's with 599
- Most consective FG's (44 from 2015-2016)
- Most seasons with 100+ points (21).
- Most playoff points with 238
- Most consecutive games scoring at 32.


As much as he accomplished with Colts , he likely will go into Hall as a Patriot given he won 3 Super Bowls with the team and made the biggest kick in their history then.

[BeastieRunner]

His son is busy breaking his HS records as a kicker, punter, and MLB at the age of 17.

Probably going to be another Iceman Vinny in the NFL before we know it.

[WestPhillyPunisher]

There are at present, only four placekickers in Canton:

Morten Andersen: 1982-2007
George Blanda (Also QB): 1949-1958, 1960-1975
Lou Groza (Also T): 1946-1959, 1961-1967
Jan Stenerud: 1967-1985

There's no doubt Vinatieri will join them in 2025.

[Scott Taylor]

No doubt at all, he is a HoFer as soon as he is eligible. Look at the company he is in!

I seriously thought no one would break Anderson's records back when

[BeastieRunner]

The latest on Julio is that the teams that are on are now only offering a R2 and/or R3 and/or R2 now, R3 later.

[CSTowle]

I think it's fine for a team like the Titans to roll the dice on offering what would likely be a late 1st, they may be one player away (and losing Corey Davis and Jonnu Smith is going to hurt a bit). Not sure when the next time the Rams are picking in the 1st, but if they can get away with a 2024/25 1st Rounder they should do it. My Patriots are in rebuild mode, and will be lucky to be a one-and-done in the playoffs. We're better off extending our CBs (Gilmore and Jackson) and trying to trade for a decent (but not formerly earth-shattering) and cheaper/younger WR from another team mid-season if we are competitive.

[MRP]

I think it's fine for a team like the Titans to roll the dice on offering what would likely be a late 1st, they may be one player away (and losing Corey Davis and Jonnu Smith is going to hurt a bit). Not sure when the next time the Rams are picking in the 1st, but if they can get away with a 2024/25 1st Rounder they should do it. My Patriots are in rebuild mode, and will be lucky to be a one-and-done in the playoffs. We're better off extending our CBs (Gilmore and Jackson) and trying to trade for a decent (but not formerly earth-shattering) and cheaper/younger WR from another team mid-season if we are competitive.

ESPN reported earlier today they have received at least one offer that included a 1st rounder and that the Titans are a longshot to land Jones. But again it's ESPN, and the accuracy of their "reporting" is spotty at best and their insiders are off the mark more often than they are on. So it's really wait and see. I doubt any of the talking heads at ESPN or other networks and sites have any more clue what is really going on than we do. Even if a deal is done, it's going to be a post-June 1 transaction, so they may delay an announcement until after this holiday weekend to make sure it gets the coverage in the news cycle of a weekday announcement vs. a weekend story, (and a holiday weekend one is even worse).

A big factor besides the return for Atlanta is if the trade partner wants them to cover some of Jones salary, since their major need right now is salary cap relief, and they may have to take less in return to not have to at part of Jones cap hit by covering a portion of his salary, so even if they got an offer with a 1st rounder, it might not work for them financially.

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[Scott Taylor]

Well, now the talking heads are predicting Seattle as the odds on favorite for Jones. For a 2nd rounder and conditional 4th rounder. Seattle also has the available cap space.

Perhaps trying to lure Wilson into being happier to stay? He was talking about the need for a burner like Jones.

[BeastieRunner]

Well, now the talking heads are predicting Seattle as the odds on favorite for Jones. For a 2nd rounder and conditional 4th rounder. Seattle also has the available cap space.

Perhaps trying to lure Wilson into being happier to stay? He was talking about the need for a burner like Jones.

The list that came out had:
- Titans
- Patriots
- Chargers
- Raiders
- Seahawks
- Cardinals
- Ravens
- Colts
- 49ers
- Eagles
- Rams
- Panthers
- Bears
- Broncos
- Packers
- Jags
- Saints
- Vikings
- Washington

With the Titans, Patriots, & Chargers being listed as the most aggressive and most likely.

Rams have been reported that they are OUT of the Jones hunt but the Steelers, Browns, Panthers now in the hunt.

Most analysts are pretty convinced he's going to the Patriots, Titans, Chargers in that order of likelihood.
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[WestPhillyPunisher]

If Jones wants to win the big prize, a.k.a., a Super Bowl, then coming here to Philly makes no sense as the Eagles are, for all intent and purposes, rebuilding and figure to be no better than a six or seven win team in 2021.

[SUPERECWFAN1]

Normally a team tries to trade a player out of the conference they are in. Like a NFC team tries to trade a player to a AFC team. Its very rare we see trades within a conference or even a division. I mean the Falcons could shock us and trade him to Seahawks.

I do think Titans will be the team that gets Jones. As they are a step below the Buffalo Bills , KC Chiefs etc right now. And a big WR target to pair with Brown and Henry would make them a threat offensively.

[CSTowle]

I think the Packers, Titans, Raiders, Rams (whatever they're saying currently), and now that I look at that list the Colts (going to have a lot of money next year) make the most sense. I really hope my Patriots don't, and as I really wanted Justin Fields or anyone but Mac Jones I feel like I'm karmically entitled to avoid this (joke). Please, please, please just extend our CBs so we don't have to try and fail again for 10 years drafting ones that come close.

[BeastieRunner]

The thing with Jones is that over half the league is interested in him because he's a first ballot HoFer with plenty in the tank.

Nearly any team that snags him will be a contender, perhaps even a SB contender if they have the right other pieces.

[CSTowle]

We probably don't have a QB, so we're not one of those teams. And there's things I'd much rather have on the team than an aging Hall-of-Famer, however much he has in the tank (and I'm not so sure there's plenty). Guys like that hit the wall usually around this age. And he has 3 years on the contract. It makes sense for a team with the cap space who's close. I just don't think that's the Patriots at this moment in history. A couple of years ago? I'm super excited. Visions of a seventh ring dancing in my eyes. Today? Think maybe, if he's healthy, wins us an extra game but not a playoff game. I think he's been a great and exciting player and I hope whoever pays up for him enjoys his services and he sells a lot of jerseys (if the football gods are kind, at least a couple more than Tebow). Just hope they're not Patriots jerseys. With 1st Round picks possibly in play here I think we're safely out. I hope.