Falcon And Winter Soldier

[steel_atlas]

Literally turned a dude who bombed shit, framed someone, and killed people (good and bad) into a kinda ok good dude and instantly villainized a soldier who was just trying his best until he broke.

Lil weird

I swear, Sam is like the only pure "good" guy in this lol. Even Bucky is suspect for some of his dumbass decisions

Also a member of the SS+.

Also changing the Flagsmashers from Thanos Cultists to Anarchists makes US Agent come off as way worse.

[Chris0013]

Couple more thoughts...
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1. The look on Karli's face when John is shwacking her guy in the street. It seems like more than just "he killed my friend" and more like she is just now realizing the stakes of this thing she started. 2. Would have liked to have seen John give himself the dose of SSS. I mean I figured he was going to get it at some point...but to do so off screen just didn't play well for me.

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[Vic Vega]

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Did they really kill the Black best friend?

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MCU Lamar was a non powered dude fighting Super Soldiers effectively unarmed. I'm surprised he lived as long as he did.

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[GSman]

Maybe it's not definite. This universe has all kind of magic stuff. Still, i didn't think this of all shows would go there

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Have the feeling it is a definite thing, judging by the pulse check, and we're dealing with emotional super enhanced people, it was bound to happen eventually with normal people involved.

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[MindofShadow]

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MCU Lamar was a non powered dude fighting Super Soldiers effectively unarmed. I'm surprised he lived as long as he did.

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It is one of the reasons I am iffy with Falcon ended up with the shield.

Dude is woefully underpowered to deal with people like this... even with the falcon wings. And his H2H skills are not the best,

I keep hoping he is going to take the SSS because he is also a "good man" and it wouldnt break his brain... just so he has a chance out there lol

[GSman]

It is one of the reasons I am iffy with Falcon ended up with the shield.

Dude is woefully underpowered to deal with people like this... even with the falcon wings. And his H2H skills are not the best,

I keep hoping he is going to take the SSS because he is also a "good man" and it wouldnt break his brain... just so he has a chance out there lol

IDK.. spoilers:

He held his own pretty well enough against the wakanda warriors, the best warriors on the planet, and pretty damn well in the super soldier fight, so he's a capable enough fighter, getting the shield along with the wings would also be a pretty decent upgrade. I remember reading his CA comic a few years ago where funny enough he had a fight against US Agent, and he was able to defeat him, not through brute strength and such but, by being crafty, evading and taking his shots. Maybe they'll lean into that, Sam doesn't have to be the strongest in the room just the most resourceful

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[steel_atlas]

I would be shocked if Falcon doesnt end up as Captain America or at least have the shield.

The show is being as ham fisted as possible to make that apparent.

[CosmiComic]

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MCU Lamar was a non powered dude fighting Super Soldiers effectively unarmed. I'm surprised he lived as long as he did.

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BW and Hawkeye somehow manage to survive this far.

I would be shocked if Falcon doesnt end up as Captain America or at least have the shield.

The show is being as ham fisted as possible to make that apparent.

I'm still not 100% he'll actually go that direction. Especially after seeing what happened to spoilers:

Bradley

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[MindofShadow]

I would be shocked if Falcon doesnt end up as Captain America or at least have the shield.

The show is being as ham fisted as possible to make that apparent.

he is 100% getting the shield back

I just want him powered so he stops getting beat up lol

still have ptsd from crossbones kicking his ass. hell, Batroc gave him that work ttoo

[MindofShadow]

BW and Hawkeye somehow manage to survive this far.

Widow is a much better fighter than Falcon

And she still got WRECKED by Winter Soldier more than once. She avoided fighting any powered things.

Ditto for hawkeye... all his fighting is ranged. T'challa wrecked him too.

I mean we saw walker, one of the best soldiers the US has, with the shield, and dude kept getting wrecked lol.

MCU power levels still have pretty clear lines and enhanced dudes like cap (rip), tchalla (rip), bucky, new super solider peeps, ect are just a tier above normal dudes like falcon

[CosmiComic]

he is 100% getting the shield back

I just want him powered so he stops getting beat up lol

still have ptsd from crossbones kicking his ass. hell, Batroc gave him that work ttoo

If he had more actual powers like he did in the comics, maybe he'd be more formidable. I mean, he can fly, so he should already have an advantage over the bare-bones super soldiers

Widow is a much better fighter than Falcon

And she still got WRECKED by Winter Soldier more than once. She avoided fighting any powered things.

Ditto for hawkeye... all his fighting is ranged. T'challa wrecked him too.

I mean we saw walker, one of the best soldiers the US has, with the shield, and dude kept getting wrecked lol.

MCU power levels still have pretty clear lines and enhanced dudes like cap (rip), tchalla (rip), bucky, new super solider peeps, ect are just a tier above normal dudes like falcon

I guess so but I still kinda roll my eyes at BW and Hawkeye managing to defeat highly advanced aliens with medieval weapons

[GSman]

BW and Hawkeye somehow manage to survive this far.

To put this in meta terms, they have main character serum, where our friend Lamar has the side character serum, so we know the answer to that.

[CosmiComic]

To put this in meta terms, they have main character serum, where our friend Lamar has the side character serum, so we know the answer to that.

Damn! spoilers:

Still may not have been exactly necessary though

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[Agent Z]

John Walker:

[CosmiComic]

Simpsons skewered stupid 80s actions tropes almost 30 years ago. So why are they still around?