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    Andor - finished, binged it after it dropped cause I don't do week to week cause it's not 1995.

    Grade: B+/A-

    Very good series, on par with some of Mandalorian which remains for me the best live action entries. Obi-Wan is really close as well.
    The only middling entry for live action has been Book of Boba Fett. So when I read all the headline blurbs about ANDOR being "THE BEST THING EVAH!!" I'm smh.
    Yes, it was very good, I enjoyed it. I also think it could've been 8-10 episodes and not 12. Too much time making widgets for the Deflector Dish on the prison planet.
    Dedra was/is a good character but she is immediately on the heels of having just had a tough as nails female antagonist on Obi-Wan with Inquisitor Reva.

    What was it that had so many people, or was it just media, raving that this is THE BEST EVER!!! ???

    The street fight finale was well done. I'm eager for more Mon Mothma.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Craig View Post
    What was it that had so many people, or was it just media, raving that this is THE BEST EVER!!! ???
    Different things connect with different people in different ways.

    Some people love the The Mandalorian. I despise that show and disparagingly call it the "Baby Yoda" show, and will not watch it again. When the CGI Luke Skywalker picked up the puppet baby Yoda that was my cue to leave too.

    Some may wonder how I could possibly feel that way.

    Different things connect with different people in different ways.

    Andor was a Star Wars drama/thriller that connected with some of us and hit us in an entirely different way, and on an entirely different level.

    Variety dubbed it Star Wars for grown-ups. Some may have taken a little bit of objection to that.

    I just call it like I said, a Star Wars drama and thriller. And handling Star Wars as a drama and thriller may have been just the thing that some of us were looking for, and thereby making it the best Star Wars ever.

    It's reshuffled my list on what I think when it comes to Star Wars.

    1. Star Wars: Andor
    2. Rogue One: A Star Wars Story
    3. Star Wars: A New Hope


    Rogue One had already topped A New Hope to me, and Andor just topped everything.

    And that's my list. All other Star Wars just exists after watching Andor. And nothing else matters after Andor.

    It just hit some of us that hard. And so I'm not surprised by what some people and some in the media are saying.

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    That said, I do have hopes for The Acolyte.

    Like many, Jedi are what I love most about Star Wars. And I'm surprised by how much I enjoy Andor in spite of that. But The Acolyte sounds on paper like something that I will like.
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    I think this show definitely had one of the most consistent (and consistently excellent) writing, direction, and acting of the entire Disney Star Wars live-action shows.

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    Aside from my unhealthy love for Mon Mothma, I would say the other thing that Andor gave me was Coruscant.

    Coruscant in the prequels was fine. Some really cool moments, some less so. When Star Wars went to TV though Coruscant was what I was most curious about, insofar how they would depict it. And if they could depict it given the time and budgetary constraints of a television show.

    Andor I felt did an adequate job. The locations of the scenes that they chose were remote enough to do on television, but still satisfying enough to my eye.

    It all felt like 70s science fiction. It had bit of brutalist architecture. And obviously a little of that "THX 1138" feel. It worked.

    Next season Yavin 4. That's going to be awesome.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tobei Miyake View Post
    Aside from my unhealthy love for Mon Mothma, I would say the other thing that Andor gave me was Coruscant.

    Coruscant in the prequels was fine. Some really cool moments, some less so. When Star Wars went to TV though Coruscant was what I was most curious about, insofar how they would depict it. And if they could depict it given the time and budgetary constraints of a television show.

    Andor I felt did an adequate job. The locations of the scenes that they chose were remote enough to do on television, but still satisfying enough to my eye.

    It all felt like 70s science fiction. It had bit of brutalist architecture. And obviously a little of that "THX 1138" feel. It worked.

    Next season Yavin 4. That's going to be awesome.
    The 70s sci fi is an apt description. I think pound for pound best Star Wars show ever.

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    Thanks for some feedback.
    I look forward to a S2 and as good as it was I just don't fall into the "best SW show ever/to date" camp.

    Someone stated the thriller aspect of it and it is time SW embraced other story telling venues within their world. I feel that is one thing Doctor Aphra brought in the comics.
    Feige was right that with superheroes you could tell a variety of genres within the superhero medium and Star Wars, starting with Andor, looks to be exploring that.
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    Andor, Red Dead Redemption 2 and Better Call Saul are the holy trinity of how to write a prequel.

    Sony should be taking notes lol.

    I'm excited for season 2 and I'll probably rewatch it next year.

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    Just finished the finale, probably the most violent Star Wars outing I've ever seen, that was a massacre. The number of fools catching blaster shots over this series was an all-time high. I was a little worried my #1, I thought Dedra was gonna get Dawn of the Dead'd and get pulled apart like Captain Rhodes. That look between her and Syril was, anti-climactic imo. I get it, save it for the sequel but cmon', Maddie and David (Moonlighting for the young folks) ruined will they won't they TV relations forever, I see this as a little correction. Only thing here is we have two Maddie's, wait til she meets his mother.

    It happens in episodic television writing that characters can be catalysts or motivations for actions and those characters are never shown. Off the top of my head I can only come up with Dickie Moltisani and The Gooch from Diffrent Strokes. Yes we eventually got Dickie but that it wasn't worth it. So when the sister is brought up I feel it's just a starting point, or a cut scene down the line. Anyway, didn't the last time Cassian saw Maarva she told him she didn't exist?

    Yes I believe Maarva's speech did change Luthen. On the low his culmination as a badass is forming hard, rolling out on that hover bike thing with that hood, that shit landed. Cassian will clearly allieve some of the ruthlessness out of him. This stage of the rebellion requires some different measures.

    I dug all of the Mon Mothma arc, she was pretty hot in parts btw, she's a good actress. Poor space-nazi benefactor Perrin, he will forever be remember to me as saying, "Does everything have to be so saad?"

    Fantastic series, now that it's over I have a few questions though.
    Beefing up the old home security, huh?
    You bet yer ass.

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    I loved the last 4-5 episodes and was not fond of the first 4-5 episodes. For me it took too long to set up but after the successful raid it really took off.
    Some things in the last episode that really had me confused though...
    1. When did Stormtroopers learn to shoot? They killed so many in the last episode by shooting them. Then again, it was like shooting fish in a barrel.
    2. I am so annoyed by the ineptness of the Empire. I get that all the backstabbing etc literally kills all the brains in the organization but damn. The one that isn't inept is taken out by an overzealous underling. I am shocked that people like Thrawn and Tarkin stuck around with all the ineptness around them. Sure it made them look better but it's amazing they got anything done.

    And the BIG reveal at the end...Yeah, who didn't see that coming?

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