Andor TV Series

[ChrisIII]

Guessing Willow will run in the gap between this and presumably either Bad Batch season 2 or Mandalorian season 3, Lucasfilmwise. Think Skeleton Crew and Acolyte just got started and Ashoka is still filming.

[j9ac9k]

With a couple eps left I wonder if we'll get any followup about Andor's sister, especially considering this whole thing started because he was looking for her. At this point it's coming across like a plot contrivance, for all the importance it's had to the overall story.

[thwhtGuardian]

With a couple eps left I wonder if we'll get any followup about Andor's sister, especially considering this whole thing started because he was looking for her. At this point it's coming across like a plot contrivance, for all the importance it's had to the overall story.

I'm thinking that's the end point of the season, it would tie it up nicely narratively if it ends similarly to how it started but we see Andor change as a person.

[the illustrious mr. kenway]

I'm expecting to Cassian's sister to be an imperial operative in the present day. But that could be too routine for Star Wars.

[thwhtGuardian]

I'm expecting to Cassian's sister to be an imperial operative in the present day. But that could be too routine for Star Wars.

I'm thinking she probably died, fridging a female character to give a hero motivation is a bad trope but I'd bet that's what happens.

[ChrisIII]

Still kind of curious what happened in the first place with their family (apart from hints about some kind of Imperial disaster possibly related to the Clone Wars) and why they were kind of a "Lord of the Flies"/"Beyond Thunderdome" kind of tribe.

[ChrisIII]

Disney will now be airing the final two episodes on ABC, Freeform, FX and Hulu in addition to Disney+.

Wonder if it's an attempt to boost the ratings for the second season?

[thwhtGuardian]

Disney will now be airing the final two episodes on ABC, Freeform, FX and Hulu in addition to Disney+.

Wonder if it's an attempt to boost the ratings for the second season?

Seems like a smart move

[Surf]

Disney will now be airing the final two episodes on ABC, Freeform, FX and Hulu in addition to Disney+.

Wonder if it's an attempt to boost the ratings for the second season?

Wow that's a big move, to the main network. Feedback must be great, weird move at this point of the season but then too, even the producers of all these projects hitting streaming isn't always set up for max eyeballs, specially when it's a hit.

[Coal Tiger]

Disney will now be airing the final two episodes on ABC, Freeform, FX and Hulu in addition to Disney+.

Wonder if it's an attempt to boost the ratings for the second season?

It’s the first 2 episodes.

Second season wont be until 2024, so probably not.

[Anthony W]

I'm thinking she probably died, fridging a female character to give a hero motivation is a bad trope but I'd bet that's what happens.

Disagree. Offing loved ones is highly effective. I see no reason why a writer should limit him/herself because once upon a time a mid tier comic writer made a website. It gives the impression that if you just follow a set of rules then you can't go wrong. It all comes down to how good the story is.

There are great stories where the love interest dies to motivate a hero. There are great stories that utterly fail the Betchel test and vice versa. We need to stop shackling writers

[j9ac9k]

Disagree. Offing loved ones is highly effective. I see no reason why a writer should limit him/herself because once upon a time a mid tier comic writer made a website. It gives the impression that if you just follow a set of rules then you can't go wrong. It all comes down to how good the story is.

There are great stories where the love interest dies to motivate a hero. There are great stories that utterly fail the Betchel test and vice versa. We need to stop shackling writers

The point of calling out the trope isn't to "shackle writers", it's to call out lazy writing and challenging them stop reusing cliched short-cuts. (and yes, to encourage writers to not perpetuate a harmful mindset in culture as well) "Fridging" happened long before that website coined the phrase, whether it happened to the girlfriend, or the cop's partner, etc.. It's a plot device intended to "make it personal!" Writers shouldn't limit themselves by creating throwaway characters who are only plot devices rather than trying to write fleshed out characters and to craft a more organically developed motivation than simply "You killed Kenny! You bastard!"

And in regards to this show, it's been building Andor's motivations the whole time. Whether or not her death adds to that won't fit the trope in my mind, and I trust the writers to do it well. So I guess we'll see how they play it.

[Anthony W]

The point of calling out the trope isn't to "shackle writers", it's to call out lazy writing and challenging them stop reusing cliched short-cuts. (and yes, to encourage writers to not perpetuate a harmful mindset in culture as well)

There is a much easier way to do that. It's called not giving that writer anymore of your time or money. What you are going for is control.

"Fridging" happened long before that website coined the phrase, whether it happened to the girlfriend, or the cop's partner, etc.. It's a plot device intended to "make it personal!"

And sometimes it worked and sometimes it didn't but that is for the audience to decide. Tv Tropes is a fun little site but I wonder if the people who made it realized the adverse effect it would have on an entire of generation LOL.

Writers shouldn't limit themselves by creating throwaway characters who are only plot devices rather than trying to write fleshed out characters.

Who are you to tell writers what they are limiting themselves on?

[j9ac9k]

There is a much easier way to do that. It's called not giving that writer anymore of your time or money. What you are going for is control.

And sometimes it worked and sometimes it didn't but that is for the audience to decide. Tv Tropes is a fun little site but I wonder if the people who made it realized the adverse effect it would have on an entire of generation LOL.

Who are you to tell writers what they are limiting themselves on?

Who do I have to be? It's called criticism or y'know - giving my personal opinion, and as it's still a free country I'm pretty sure that's my right - that's not control. Nobody's forcing anyone to do anything.

And I think it's been a good thing that "Women in Fridges" coined that phrase.

[Anthony W]

Who do I have to be? It's called criticism or y'know - giving my personal opinion, not control. It's still a free country. Nobody's forcing anyone to do anything.

And I think it's been a good thing that "Women in Fridges" coined that phrase.

The thing is feelings about fridging now are it should never be done. So it's easy to just say "my opinion" when there is overwhelming pressure being exerted on the writer to not do it under any circumstances.