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anyone else seen the mid-season trailer yet? seems a lot of people are expecting a fight but personally I believe they are actually officially teaming up. this feels like classic MCU trailer misleading, otherwise I feel they would have shown a scene of them fighting walker even if just a bit.
Oh I get it's a standard trope of pride, one I've never liked... but Falcon never struck me as an idiot. He can't whine and stress about a business that 'means something' to him... when he knows AT LEAST two billionaires. How much does it mean to him, if he'll rather let it go bust than suck up his pride and ask for help??? Very fair help AS HE DIED, THEN saved the universe. Another toxic masculinity trait I didn't enjoy.
It's not that he killed, it's the blasé way he killed. BIG difference. There are other ways to show someone is a bad-ass than having them display a contempt for human life.
Really??? Each to their own, I guess...
I'd like to emphasis he's a soldier... who flew into the mission on metal wings because his name is Falcon and he's a superhero who just helped defeat a giant purple alien who erased half the universe. Let's mayyyyyyybe tone done the 'realism' arguement.
To be clear the toxic masculinity is in the writing. Falcon, Bucky... neither have choice over their actions or dialogue, that's down to the writers and the creators. The entire scene with the psychiatrist had a tone that... as if we, the audience, are supposed to ENJOY that he's not answering very fair questions about his mental health. Supposed to cheer on this behaviour. Because it's better to be a smart ass and quip and lie and not give an inch... than actually (god forbid) talk A LITTLE about your feelings. It's very toxic masculinity, which I did not care for.
Based on the responses I got, I think it's best.
Wasn't Falcon at the party in Stark Tower in Age of Ultron???
They had just tried to replace Cap a day ago.. with Falcon. It's not out of the realm of possibility to say if they wanted a new Cap, they weren't gonna stop asking guys just because Falcon said no. And even then... he turned it down, as cliffhangers go finding out the thing you turned down got given to someone else... is a weak ass cliffhanger. What happens next episode, Falcon says he doesn't like lettuce in his bacon sandwich and then is handed a bacon sandwich without lettuce? CUE SHOCKING MUSIC!!!!! Where's the lettuce I specifically said I didn't want???? (I'm being sarcastic and over-exaggerating, but come on... what a rubbish cliffhanger)
"We are Shakespeare. We are Michelangelo. We are Tchaikovsky. We are Turing. We are Mercury. We are Wilde. We are Lincoln, Lorca, Leonardo da Vinci. We are Alexander the Great. We are Fredrick the Great. We are Rustin. We are Addams. We are Marsha! Marsha Marsha Marsha! We so generous, we DeGeneres. We are Ziggy Stardust hooked to the silver screen. Controversially we are Malcolm X. We are Plato. We are Aristotle. We are RuPaul, god dammit! And yes, we are Woolf."
The same way clicking your fingers restores countless billions who were 'vanished'... it's called fantasy Suspension of disbelief that he manages to do things without killing nearly everyone around him isn't going to be the biggest ask of any Marvel film or series. I mean it's like "save the cat" in a modern day 'kewl' setting had become "kill countless bad guys without remorse, kill the cat too, why not, that's what KEWL DUDES DO, bro."
As someone who doesn't follow (or really care, as sinful as that is to admit on a comic board?) for DC heroes, I'm afraid I don't get this reference.
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"We are Shakespeare. We are Michelangelo. We are Tchaikovsky. We are Turing. We are Mercury. We are Wilde. We are Lincoln, Lorca, Leonardo da Vinci. We are Alexander the Great. We are Fredrick the Great. We are Rustin. We are Addams. We are Marsha! Marsha Marsha Marsha! We so generous, we DeGeneres. We are Ziggy Stardust hooked to the silver screen. Controversially we are Malcolm X. We are Plato. We are Aristotle. We are RuPaul, god dammit! And yes, we are Woolf."
He didn't know those billionaires personally. Definitely not to the extent where he can call them up and ask for money. Did you forgot he sided against one of them and became a fugitive for two years because of it?
You expected him to act like an anime high schooler for killing a random guy? This isn't his first rodeo and he didn't have time to soak in his actions if he was gonna save that guy.
Yes because redlining is a very real thing that still happens
I'll like to emphasis that he is a soldier he makes his living being a military contractor and being heavily involved with the military industrial complex. A conventional superhero he is not.
What gave you that impression? What I got out of it is Bucky is struggling with all the things he's done as the Winter Soldier, feeling that he might not deserve his second chance and not sure what he wants to do with his life. At worst the therapy he is receiving might not be the best way for him to resolve his issues. He needs Wakanda.
Sam turned in the shield to the smithsonian wanting to honor Steve and his legacy. What makes that moment a slap in the face is if the government wanted a new Cap then they should have convince Sam to take up the mantle since they knew he was Steve's chosen successor.
If you are so squeamish about comic book heroes killing terrorists, mass murderers, and every other kind of bad guy that would kill them and numerous other innocent people without blinking I suggest you stop watching the PG13 and up content, those have no problem showing heroes killing bad guys, and maybe most PG content while not outright saying they killed people things are often left in ways that after a certain age we know people died as a direct result of their actions.
I mean, I don't think they had to depict Sam fighting the way he did, but it's come to be expected within the genre within live-action.
Well, considering this show is somewhat political, it wouldn't be unreasonable for Sam to question whether what he's doing is right.
I think you're missing the point of the scene. We're not meant to cheer on Bucky for avoiding talking about his feelings. I think we're supposed to see how damaged he is. Yes, there's a bit of levity there, but it's clear he's in a bad place. He's not celebrated for being closed off. It's a disservice to the nuanced writing of the show to dismiss it as celebrating toxic masculinity. From what I'm watching, the characters are more complicated than that. It presents characters who act the role of traditional masculinity, but usually finds a way to undermine it as unhealthy and that most of these characters are broken in some way.