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    Long time reader of the X-men, and one of my pet peeves has been that there are so many mutants running around now that the X-men and mutants in general, no longer feel as 'special' as they were in the past. The coolest thing about mutants was whether they robbed a bank or stopped a bank robbery, they were still feared and shunned by the general populace for being born different.

    Here's my challenge to you - if the Marvel universe could have ONLY 24 mutants on Earth, and each of them HAD to join either the X-Men or the Brotherhood, who would you have on each side? Who would head up each faction?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cap808 View Post
    long time reader of the x-men, and one of my pet peeves has been that there are so many mutants running around now that the x-men and mutants in general, no longer feel as 'special' as they were in the past. The coolest thing about mutants was whether they robbed a bank or stopped a bank robbery, they were still feared and shunned by the general populace for being born different.

    Here's my challenge to you - if the marvel universe could have only 24 mutants on earth, and each of them had to join either the x-men or the brotherhood, who would you have on each side? Who would head up each faction?
    x-men:

    Professor x
    cyclops
    jean grey
    storm
    wolverine
    rogue
    iceman
    bishop
    nightcrawler
    beast
    psylocke
    colossus


    brotherhood:

    Magneto
    mystique
    emma frost
    selene
    mister sinister
    sebastian shaw
    shadow king
    apocalypse
    archangel
    death (gambit)
    marrow
    quentin quire

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    Let's be honest with ourselves. The VAST majority of these replies are going to be some permutation of the exact same roster of Claremont/Byrne/Lee-era characters.

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    interesting exercise:

    For the X-Men I would go:
    Professor X
    Cyclops
    Storm
    Jean Grey
    Nightcrawler
    Colossus
    Rogue
    Gambit
    Betsy
    Iceman
    Shadowcat
    Emma
    Wolverine
    Bishop

    "Brotherood":
    Magneto
    Mystique
    Mr. Sinister
    Apocalypse
    Destiny
    Lady Deathstrike
    Shadowking
    Selene
    Sebastian Shaw
    Tempo
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    Brotherhood(Though I will use the cooler, gender-neutral Mutant Liberation Front/MLF name instead)

    Magneto, Apocalypses, Haven(reworked as a mutant in her own right who can fire bolts, teleport around the world or to her own dimension where she is supremely powerful ), and Selene are the main leaders, who have sects beneath them.

    Magneto's Acolytes, mutant supremacists:

    Exodus, Privilege(Emma), Frenzy, King Bedlam, and Arclight.

    Apocalypse's Horsemen, threshers of the weak:

    Sabretooth, Ichisumi, Omega Red, Infectia, Sinister.

    Haven's Ashram, global outreach and reeducation:

    Shadow King, Feral, Greycrow, Asp, and Senyaka.

    Selene's Necropolis, temple of death:

    Mystique, Destiny, Threnody, Pyro, and Avalanche.

    X-Men

    Xavier, Cyke, Storm, and Jean are the main leaders with squads.

    Xavier's Silver, intelligence gathering and extraction:

    Xorn, Trinary/Sage hybrid, Gateway/Manifold hybrid, Warpath, Cipher.

    Cyke's Blue, street level heroics:

    Kwannon, Rogue, Jubilee, Nightcrawler, and Synch.

    Storm's Gold, world stage heroics:

    Sunspot, Monet, Tempo, Bishop, and Wolverine.

    Jean's Red, outreach and therapeutics:

    Moonstar, Dust, Elixir, Flourish, and Thunderbird(aka Tejas, Neal).


    This was so hard. In trying to collapse hundreds of characters into just a few dozen, trying to be equitable in terms of powersets, genders, and backgrounds, many of my favorites were left on the cutting room floor. 24 each is very difficult. 30 each would allow for more of the fan favorites. The main characters definitely need more ethnic diversity. I had to really stretch to find representation for the whole world and keep the teams from being all white. The villains are holding up the scant LGBTQ representation, but I really couldn't balance Iceman or Northstar into the equation with Xavier, Cake, and Wolvie already hogging the 'white guys' section. Kurt technically shouldn't be on the list either, but I couldn't think of more Asian males(Neal took Sunfire's 'fireguy' spot, Xorn is the only Chinese male mutant I could think of which is crazy, more than 1/7 mutants should be Chinese).

    Wait, 24 in TOTAL? Yikes. Whatever, I can't reduce this further...
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    Easy

    Professor X
    1-Cyclops
    2-Storm
    3-Wolverine
    4-Jean
    5-Psylocke
    6-Iceman
    7-Colossus
    8-Shadowcat
    9-Nightcrawler
    10-Rogue
    11-Gambit
    12-Bishop


    Brotherhood

    13-Magneto
    14-White Queen
    15-Mystique
    16-Sabretooth
    17-Juggernaut
    18-Pyro
    19-Scarlet Witch
    20-Quicksilver
    21-Polaris
    22-Avalanche
    23-Sinister
    24-Apocalipse (introduced later, takes over the team, after magneto and polaris turn to the good side)

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    X-men:
    cyclops
    Jean
    Storm
    Monet
    Gentle
    Triage
    Manifold
    Lorna
    Bishop
    Blink
    Jubilee
    Iceman

    Brotherhood:
    Mystique
    Magneto
    Xavier
    Betsy
    Rogue
    Destiny
    Abigail brand
    Emma frost
    Kate pride
    Selene
    Exodus
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    I tried to have counterparts

    X-Men:
    Professor X
    Cyclops
    Storm
    Wolverine
    Phoenix
    Iceman
    Beast
    Gambit
    Rogue
    Shadowcat
    Nightcrawler
    Firestar

    Brotherhood:
    Magneto
    Mystique
    Destiny
    Sabretooth
    Mesmero
    Pyro
    Blob
    Toad
    Polaris
    Avalanche
    Vanisher
    Marrow
    Last edited by Mutant God; 02-11-2021 at 04:46 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yogaflame View Post
    [B]This was so hard. In trying to collapse hundreds of characters into just a few dozen, trying to be equitable in terms of powersets, genders, and backgrounds, many of my favorites were left on the cutting room floor. 24 each is very difficult. 30 each would allow for more of the fan favorites. The main characters definitely need more ethnic diversity. I had to really stretch to find representation for the whole world and keep the teams from being all white. The villains are holding up the scant LGBTQ representation, but I really couldn't balance Iceman or Northstar into the equation with Xavier, Cake, and Wolvie already hogging the 'white guys' section. Kurt technically shouldn't be on the list either, but I couldn't think of more Asian males(Neal took Sunfire's 'fireguy' spot, Xorn is the only Chinese male mutant I could think of which is crazy, more than 1/7 mutants should be Chinese).

    Wait, 24 in TOTAL? Yikes. Whatever, I can't reduce this further...
    This is my main problem with trying to reduce the X-Men cast down.

    If you stick with the most popular, well-known, and iconic characters you get a bunch of characters that lack diversity and that is uncomfortable because the X-Men should be one of the most diverse teams in the MU... but it's only really gotten truly diverse in the last two decades with lots of newer characters.

    Just looking at a couple of these posts and you have lists where only Storm and maybe Psylocke are the only people are color and that's sad. And yes, we should absolutely have more Asian representation in the X-World.

    And from a narrative stand-point, just like with Decimation, you don't solidly represent a new species with two dozen characters representing the entire X-World. Of course the OP did specify that's it's only X-Men/Brotherhood membership and nothing else, but still...
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    Here are my groups. It was tough to narrow down, but I went with my favorites. It's also interesting to see that I'm not the only one who put 'good guys' on the 'bad guy' team:

    X-Men
    Cyclops
    Namor
    Jean
    Storm
    Quicksilver
    Colossus
    Blade
    Angel
    Warpath
    Scarlet Witch
    Blink
    Polaris
    Sunfire

    Brotherhood
    Magneto
    Wolverine
    Emma
    Frenzy
    Blob
    Sabretooth
    Avalanche
    Rogue
    Mystique
    Whirlwind

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    I want to say that if I were starting the X-Men completely over, the teams would be much more diverse - for example, Cyclops might be Asian American. So lots of these characters wouldn't actually be white:

    X-Men
    Professor X
    Cyclops
    Angel
    Jean
    Beast
    Polaris
    Nightcrawler
    Storm
    Wolverine
    Kate Pryde
    Banshee
    Psylocke

    Brotherhood
    Magneto
    Scarlett Witch
    Quicksilver
    Colossus
    Rogue
    Gambit
    Mystique
    Pyro
    Sabertooth
    Havok
    Emma
    Mr Sinister
    Last edited by DetectiveStrange; 02-12-2021 at 10:07 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DetectiveStrange View Post
    I want to say that if I were starting the X-Men completely over, the teams would be much more diverse - for example, Cyclops might be Asian American. So lots of these characters wouldn't actually be white:

    X-Men
    Professor X
    Cyclops
    Angel
    Jean
    Beast
    Angel
    Nightcrawler
    Storm
    Wolverine
    Kate Pryde
    Banshee
    Psylocke

    Brotherhood
    Magneto
    Scarlett Witch
    Quicksilver
    Colossus
    Rogue
    Gambit
    Mystique
    Pyro
    Sabertooth
    Havok
    Polaris
    Emma
    Pick another one my friend, you've two angels. Me, I'd drop Dazzler in there and go right along with you.

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    Xmen:
    Xavier
    Cyclops
    Wolverine
    Jean
    Storm
    Armor
    Colossus
    Magik
    Shadowcat
    Psylocke
    Gambit
    Rogue
    Nightcrawler
    Cable
    Pixie
    Anole

    Brotherhood:
    Magneto
    Mystique
    Avalanche
    Emma frost
    Sinister
    Sebastian Shaw
    Destiny
    Spiral

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Joe View Post
    Pick another one my friend, you've two angels. Me, I'd drop Dazzler in there and go right along with you.
    Ah, thanks for the catch! Dazzler is great, but I opted to move Polaris to the "good" side (Erik's daughter on the side of his enemy would be interesting!) and include Sinister (who I also forgot about) in the Brotherhood.

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    X-Men

    Xavier
    Namor
    Storm
    Banshee
    Cannonball
    Rogue
    Psylocke
    Wolverine
    Colossus
    Jubilee
    Synch
    Gambit

    Brotherhood

    Magneto
    Callisto
    Emma
    Toad
    Exodus
    Phantazia
    Havok
    Mr Sinister
    M
    Dark Beast
    Marrow
    Apocalypse
    Last edited by blinkingblah; 02-12-2021 at 02:04 PM.

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