Silver Surfer Appreciation 2021

[Chainsaw Vigilante]

He had a nice appearance in King in Black 4 however brief it was. It was pretty much a given that Eddie Brock would be the ultimate hero but the Surfer breaking through the Knull barrier, and casually taking out a bunch of Symbiote Dragons and the Knull possessed Celestial to deliver the Uni-Power was neat. I just wish he has more to do, reminds me of his role in the Annihilation-Cancerverse arc early last year (or was it late 2019?), it just left me with wanting him to do more than have a brief savior moment (which he's had a bunch of times as far back as when he saved the Fantastic Four from Terrax in the 80's, then did again with the New Warriors and Terrax, then saved Daredevil from Mephisto, then the Devil's Due universe from Mephisto, then saved the Uni-Power in that Captain Universe mini in the mid 2000's, etc., etc.). They are cool moments, they just leave you wanting a bit more.


I really don't want to see him in a monthly team book. I've been disappointed in how Ewing writes cosmic Marvel, he has interesting ideas that just peter out in mediocrity. He's somewhere between Hickman having interesting ideas that are just sort of injected into established continuity without any prior hints of them existing and the Bendis sort of "hey remember this!" type use of established continuity without the proper context that the continuity existed in. It's like having a missing piece of two halves that would make each half complete and keep the use of both halves from making an excellent whole (that being said Ewing is much more respectful of continuity than Bendis is, but not as interesting of an idea man as Hickman). The Surfer in a monthly book, especially a monthly team book will just be diluted Surfer written by someone that is just going to sort of Ron Marz him again is not what I want for the character. Aside from that Ewing is stretched thin between too many books.
As terrible as Cates writes Galactus he writes the Surfer well, so I'd rather see him do a monthly Surfer book as long as he never writes Galactus again.

There are very few writers I'd trust with a Surfer book. Looking at who has written him in recent years... Surprisingly Slott and Catest have written him well (both helped a lot by their artist partners in The Silver Surfer and Silver Surfer: Black respectively). Abnett and Lanning could both do a good job even though they aren't my ideal fits for the character but they have been part of Marvel since the 90's and have more respect for history than just "hey remember this!" type tidbits that have been a mainstay since Bendis (essentially Family Guy'ing Marvel). Whoever wrote his appearance in Moon Girl and Devil Dinosaur a couple of years back (the Fantastic Four/Omnipotus arc) wrote the Surfer and Galactus surprisingly well even if the overall storyline was basic (but it was essentially for a book most geared towards children so a lot can be excused due to that).

[Raffi Ol D'Arcy]

Another thing that I saw some people talking about is the possibilty of Donny Cates writing a SS book.

Silver Surfer is always among the few characters that Cates basically writes in almost all his books, with important roles: Thanos Wins, SS: Black and King in Black (which seems a really important role).

SS: Black was amazing, so I think a Cates/Moore team could be amazing.

I wouldn't mind Cates writing Surfer. I'm not a massive fan of his other stuff although Venom has been quite good. I haven't yet got to the whole KiB event but Silver Surfer Black was very very good with fantastic art by Moore. Cates is quite good with continuity as he recognises previous runs. I would like to see the Silver Surfer Black collected along with a possible Cates Surfer run in an Omnibus format.

[Immortal Hulk]

He had a nice appearance in King in Black 4 however brief it was. It was pretty much a given that Eddie Brock would be the ultimate hero but the Surfer breaking through the Knull barrier, and casually taking out a bunch of Symbiote Dragons and the Knull possessed Celestial to deliver the Uni-Power was neat. I just wish he has more to do, reminds me of his role in the Annihilation-Cancerverse arc early last year (or was it late 2019?), it just left me with wanting him to do more than have a brief savior moment (which he's had a bunch of times as far back as when he saved the Fantastic Four from Terrax in the 80's, then did again with the New Warriors and Terrax, then saved Daredevil from Mephisto, then the Devil's Due universe from Mephisto, then saved the Uni-Power in that Captain Universe mini in the mid 2000's, etc., etc.). They are cool moments, they just leave you wanting a bit more.


I really don't want to see him in a monthly team book. I've been disappointed in how Ewing writes cosmic Marvel, he has interesting ideas that just peter out in mediocrity. He's somewhere between Hickman having interesting ideas that are just sort of injected into established continuity without any prior hints of them existing and the Bendis sort of "hey remember this!" type use of established continuity without the proper context that the continuity existed in. It's like having a missing piece of two halves that would make each half complete and keep the use of both halves from making an excellent whole (that being said Ewing is much more respectful of continuity than Bendis is, but not as interesting of an idea man as Hickman). The Surfer in a monthly book, especially a monthly team book will just be diluted Surfer written by someone that is just going to sort of Ron Marz him again is not what I want for the character. Aside from that Ewing is stretched thin between too many books.
As terrible as Cates writes Galactus he writes the Surfer well, so I'd rather see him do a monthly Surfer book as long as he never writes Galactus again.

There are very few writers I'd trust with a Surfer book. Looking at who has written him in recent years... Surprisingly Slott and Catest have written him well (both helped a lot by their artist partners in The Silver Surfer and Silver Surfer: Black respectively). Abnett and Lanning could both do a good job even though they aren't my ideal fits for the character but they have been part of Marvel since the 90's and have more respect for history than just "hey remember this!" type tidbits that have been a mainstay since Bendis (essentially Family Guy'ing Marvel). Whoever wrote his appearance in Moon Girl and Devil Dinosaur a couple of years back (the Fantastic Four/Omnipotus arc) wrote the Surfer and Galactus surprisingly well even if the overall storyline was basic (but it was essentially for a book most geared towards children so a lot can be excused due to that).

He did have a very cool display in KIB #4, indeed.

Btw, what do you think about how Ewing would write SS, that you wouldn't like?

I wouldn't mind Cates writing Surfer. I'm not a massive fan of his other stuff although Venom has been quite good. I haven't yet got to the whole KiB event but Silver Surfer Black was very very good with fantastic art by Moore. Cates is quite good with continuity as he recognises previous runs. I would like to see the Silver Surfer Black collected along with a possible Cates Surfer run in an Omnibus format.

Yeah, imo SS:Black and Thanos Wins (which had cool SS moments) are the best from what I've seen of Cates work. He definitely can write him very well.

[Shadowcat]

A Cates/Shaw SS book would be amazing to read. Really put the Surfer back on the must read list.

[Cronus]

Honestly, I miss Ron Marz Surfer. Did Surfer's power set change significantly in SS Black, I mean aside from the obvious visual change?

[Shadowcat]

Honestly, I miss Ron Marz Surfer. Did Surfer's power set change significantly in SS Black, I mean aside from the obvious visual change?

He’s now intangible, but other than that, I don’t think much has changed with him, abilities wise.

[Cronus]

He’s now intangible, but other than that, I don’t think much has changed with him, abilities wise.

Like perma-intangible? Cuz couldn't he do that already, albeit by consciously thinking of it? Hmmm.

[Immortal Hulk]

He’s now intangible, but other than that, I don’t think much has changed with him, abilities wise.

Shadowcat, sorry if I'm wrong, but intangibility is one of the myriad of powers SS has (when written correctly, they are almost too much, lol).

He was quite tangible in KiB, for example.

[Immortal Hulk]

One day, sooner than later, We're gonna see this in the MCU!

[Immortal Hulk]

[Micabe]

I wouldn't mind Cates writing Surfer. I'm not a massive fan of his other stuff although Venom has been quite good. I haven't yet got to the whole KiB event but Silver Surfer Black was very very good with fantastic art by Moore. Cates is quite good with continuity as he recognises previous runs. I would like to see the Silver Surfer Black collected along with a possible Cates Surfer run in an Omnibus format.

Silver Surfer: Black Treasury Edition

[Tien Long]

One of my treasured Silver Surfer comics. And for the longest time, this was the only one I owned. In some regards, it's completely throw away one and done thing. It's just Midnight Sun fighting with Silver Surfer. But wow, that Ron Lim art was gorgeous. Midnight Sun with his martial arts and Silver Surfer just shooting stuff up with the Power Cosmic.

One of my other favorite Silver Surfer moment was him going against Green Lantern during the '95 Marvel/DC crossover event. Again, the art was awesome, and I liked the theme of Marvel vs. DC, and Silver vs. Green were in here:

[Phoenixx9]

One day, sooner than later, We're gonna see this in the MCU!

I love these pics!

[Hypestyle]

i'd be interested to see a maxi-series of Norrin written by Christopher Priest, where the philosophies of Norrin get to be explored, and conflicts beyond using power cosmic to blow stuff up (though hopefully there are plenty of those sequences)...

[K7P5V]

Honestly, I miss Ron Marz Surfer.

Me too. Marz & Lim were a great team (IMHO):