Good News! AQUAMAN is getting an ANIMATED SERIES! Bad News! It looks like THIS!

[Vakanai]

You not liking the art style does not mean something is drawn worse.

Okay. It's not drawn better then - it's drawn in a much better superior style.

[Kirby101]

And I guess Kathy is drawn just as well as Apartment 3G.

[green_garnish]

Just saying, there hasn't been good animation for decades. The proof is in the quality of the story, not the style of the drawing. And yes, the Bruce Timm still posted earlier pretty much proves my point

And by decades, I mean like 80 years.

[Vakanai]

Just saying, there hasn't been good animation for decades. The proof is in the quality of the story, not the style of the drawing. And yes, the Bruce Timm still posted earlier pretty much proves my point

And by decades, I mean like 80 years.

I really have to disagree with you there. If your argument is there hasn't been good animation since the theatrical shorts of nearly a century ago, then there's really no common basis for us to even debate.

[Konja7]

Well, umm, yes. What's your point?

I think the point is that Bruce Timm Superman look better than Aquaman design for many people.

I guess it is an opinion issue. If you think Bruce Timm Superman is so horrible like the Aquaman designs, I understand why you don't have problems with these designs.

[green_garnish]

I think the point is that Bruce Timm Superman look better than Aquaman design for many people.

I guess it is an opinion issue. If you think Bruce Timm Superman is so horrible like the Aquaman designs, I understand why you don't have problems with these designs.

Not saying I don't have problems. Just saying one is not demonstrably better than the other, and the storytelling will decide the success.

[Konja7]

I should say there are many unfair complaints about the "Calarts" style (and the defenders of this style don't stop from mention it).

As the idea of this style being lazy, which is not really the case, since this style is usually very diverse with the shapes and bodies of the characters.

However, the real problem and criticism with this style is that it looks ugly and simple.

Not saying I don't have problems. Just saying one is not demonstrably better than the other, and the storytelling will decide the success.

The issue is animation is visual media.

If you find that the art is repulsive, you won't stay for the story.

So, the art really need to be attractive for its target audience.

[green_garnish]

If you find that the art is repulsivo, you won't Stay for the story.

So, the art really need to be attractive for its target audience.

Bruce Timm Superman would take issue with this position.

[Vakanai]

Bruce Timm Superman would take issue with this position.

Most people don't find the Bruce Timm Superman style ugly - you are in the minority there.

[Jcogginsa]

Just saying, there hasn't been good animation for decades. The proof is in the quality of the story, not the style of the drawing. And yes, the Bruce Timm still posted earlier pretty much proves my point

And by decades, I mean like 80 years.

Please cite what you are referring to when you say the cartoons of 80 years about had better story telling than anything since

I should say there are many unfair complaints about the "Calarts" style (and the defenders of this style don't stop from mention it).

It must be noted that "Calarts Style" has no definition whatsoever over than "Artstyle which I dislike"

Unless you wanna argue that the image on the first page is done in the same style as The Iron Giant

[Konja7]

It must be noted that "Calarts Style" has no definition whatsoever over than "Artstyle which I dislike"

Unless you wanna argue that the image on the first page is done in the same style as The Iron Giant

That's why I put "Calarts" in quote marks. I know it isn't really from Calarts students.

However, it isn't just "artstyle which I dislike". It is a current trend in animation that we can see on Teen Titans Go or Thundercats Roar.

People don't exactly know how to describe this style (since they aren't experts on art), that's why they need to put a word for this.

At the end, the problem people has with this new trend is that look ugly for them.

[Username taken]

Someone mentioned something earlier and it got me thinking....maybe the producers of these series are adopting this art style more to target young audiences without too much adult attention.

Particularly nowadays with grown men constantly complaining about LGBT and minority representation in their media. Although, said animation style didn’t stop the same people from complaining about She-Ra’s cleavage being too small or the queer themes in the series.

But I think there is a hard shift from American producers away from animation that’s targeting all-ages. Outside of streaming services like Netflix, most modern animation just doesn’t use the detailed art style that we (I.e our age bracket) is used to. Like I said earlier, my kids pretty much gobble this stuff without much complaints because this is what they are used and don’t have much point of reference beyond the Steven Universe, Teen Titans Go and all the wacky stuff on Cartoon Network. Adults are coming in with a different perspective because we grew up (and still consume) on art that’s much more detailed. If this stuff wasn’t gaining traction with their target audience, I don’t think they’d lean so hard into it.

[green_garnish]

Most people don't find the Bruce Timm Superman style ugly - you are in the minority there.

I don't think that style is ugly.

[Konja7]

Someone mentioned something earlier and it got me thinking....maybe the producers of these series are adopting this art style more to target young audiences without too much adult attention.

Particularly nowadays with grown men constantly complaining about LGBT and minority representation in their media. Although, said animation style didn’t stop the same people from complaining about She-Ra’s cleavage being too small or the queer themes in the series.

But I think there is a hard shift from American producers away from animation that’s targeting all-ages. Outside of streaming services like Netflix, most modern animation just doesn’t use the detailed art style that we (I.e our age bracket) is used to. Like I said earlier, my kids pretty much gobble this stuff without much complaints because this is what they are used and don’t have much point of reference beyond the Steven Universe, Teen Titans Go and all the wacky stuff on Cartoon Network. Adults are coming in with a different perspective because we grew up (and still consume) on art that’s much more detailed. If this stuff wasn’t gaining traction with their target audience, I don’t think they’d lean so hard into it.

I don't think they want to avoid adult attention with this style. After all, if they are working with an old franchise, they should know older fans will be involved.

In fact, at some level, the producers likely want this reaction from grown men, since it is still a type of advertising (it just need to reach the right demographic).

I remember that She-Ra Netflix has a lot hate, but many people came out to defend it too (in response to this hatred).


That said, I agree this style should be popular enough between kids. The producers wouldn't continue to use that style otherwise.


PS: In itself, I don't see a lot of complaints for Steven Universe or Adventure Timd designs. People only seem to mention the "issue" with these designs when the produces apply this style to an older franchise they liked (Thundercats Roar or Teen Titans Go.

[Jewel Runner]

Just saying, there hasn't been good animation for decades. The proof is in the quality of the story, not the style of the drawing. And yes, the Bruce Timm still posted earlier pretty much proves my point

And by decades, I mean like 80 years.

The idea there's been no good animation in 80 years is so wrong that it's nothing but laughable