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    Default Waverider vs Firelord

    Waverider vs Firelord. Standard default settings.
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    Doesn't Waverider have some good speed feats? Firelord is one of the Heralds who really... doesn't.
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    Well, I know ya'll like "feets" here, but....anyone (like Firelord) who can fly in space prolly has some good speed, no?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phoenixx9 View Post
    Well, I know ya'll like "feets" here, but....anyone (like Firelord) who can fly in space prolly has some good speed, no?
    Nobody’s disputing he has travel speed, but he has no discernible reaction speed feats, which is what matters in a combat situation against someone who can actually hurt him.

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    Waverider can step outside of time and freely manipulate energy on a pretty epic scale.

    now... as I recall he doesn't have the big gun level feats of a Herald but he's got esoterics and he's really hard to kill.

    Barring Firelord being able to mess with time, Waverider should beat him, surely?

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    What if they cut off Aquaman's hands?

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    No that's crazy talk, nobody could ever do that to Aquaman.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shellhead View Post
    What if they cut off Aquaman's hands?
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    No that's crazy talk, nobody could ever do that to Aquaman.
    Wait...what? Aquaman????
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shellhead View Post
    What if they cut off Aquaman's hands?
    Quote Originally Posted by Shellhead View Post
    No that's crazy talk, nobody could ever do that to Aquaman.
    Wrong thread, Shellhead.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phoenixx9 View Post
    Wait...what? Aquaman????
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    Wrong thread, Shellhead.
    Just like birds being spycams for the Government, Waverider is just Aquaman trying to rebrand himself.
    Yeah, but if you... man, we're getting into weird analogy territory, like if you disintegrated Superman's arms he wouldn't be able to go "fool! Little did you know that my arms and I are one and can be remade from me!" and will his arms back into being from pure nothingness. - Pendaran

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    Whoops, wrong thread. But it's funnier here, so I'm leaving it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shellhead View Post
    Whoops, wrong thread. But it's funnier here, so I'm leaving it.
    You definitely should.
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