Not really sure. If we take the CW as having any significance to the comics (or even what might happen in the movies), then Routh CW Superman seems to be different than SR Superman because CW Routh Superman makes reference to an event in Superman 3, fighting his evil doppleganger. Clearly, his world still exists at the end though I guess he never goes the way KC Superman went if i remember it correctly.
I was unclear if all the world's were restored except Earth One and Earth Two being merged. The nostalgia in me wants to believe the Batman '66 world was restored.
Power with Girl is better.
If I remember correctly I think all the worlds were restored. One of the writers basically said they weren’t going to erase the stories of the previous creatives.
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I still suspect this'll just turn out to be the new Batman v Superman, between the many changes in plans and the insertion of several characters which we're already assuming are more meaningful for future movies than for this one.
I think that it is too early to say anything about... Well, anything.
Sorry, but the whole "China is not going to respond well to a black Superman" IMHO is an oversimplification. First of all, there are one friggin' billion and a half people in China and to me it doesn't make much sense to imply that China is racist about black people as a whole (especially since apparently Black Panther had a huge opening in China https://qz.com/quartzy/1231764/the-s...ther-in-china/ and - that's Wikipedia, so take it for what is worth - "as of April 8, 2018, the film's largest markets were China ($104.6 million), etc.". I mean, I have got a feeling that BP triggered an equal number of racist responses in the US.
Secondly, the mere idea of a DCEU is clearly in doubt at the moment. I mean, since Affleck and Cavill are not there, and Leto - thankfully - won't take part in any DCEU project anymore, and Fisher has burned all the bridges with WB, what we are left with is Momoa, Gadot and - maybe, just maybe - Miller. I don't know whether it would make sense to include Shazam and Black Adam since it has always been its own thing, more or less like Sony's expanded Spider-verse.
Tonally speaking, the DCEU has already ceased to exist. There is no possible way for Gunn's The Suicide Squad and Snyder's JL to exist in the same universe. I mean, they can TELL us that it's the same DCEU and we can use transitive property to prove that yes, technically speaking it is (Gunn's SS includes Margot Robbie, who in the previous SS movie existed in the same universe as Batfleck, who existed in the same universe as Cavillman), but it still makes no sense anyway.
I think that the DCEU has just stopped being a priority. Basically we are back to the early days of Snyder's MOS, when Cavill received a lukewarm response and it was not 100% clear whether it was part of a shared universe, and the big deal was Nolan's Batman trilogy.
That's what will happen IMHO:
1- Reeves' Batman will be its own trilogy, very similarly to Nolan's work, and will probably be successful. It will have its own spinoff, like Gotham Central, etc, but it will be its own thing.
2- Momoa and Gadot will conclude their trilogy, and this will be it. I guess that there still are some possibilities for some Aquaman spin-offs, but after WW84 I wouldn't hold my breath for Amazons tv series and such.
3- Shazam/Black Adam will be what I described above, technically speaking part of the "old" DCEU but with no references to it at all (maybe they will give Cavill enough cash to act as Black Adam's punching ball for a couple of minutes).
4- Miller Flash I have no idea, because the forthcoming movie seems like a way for the producers to start a lot of unrelated spin-offs rather than establishing the character's own personal universe and cast.
5- Coates Superman I have no idea, we basically know nothing about the project (even the idea that Superman will be played by a black actor is mere speculation), but I think that it is too big a concept not to be similar to Reeves' trilogy, so who knows.
6-All the other secondary characters - Blue Beetle, Latina Supergirl, Batgirl etc - will be used for streaming only movies on HBO Max, with little or zero references to a shared universe.
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Yara probably WON'T be in that show, because she was intended to have her own show, but CW didn't pick it up.
Yeah, the only worlds merged or destroyed were those introduced in the Arrowverse. We know that at least four Earths merged (Earth 1, Earth 38, home to Supergirl, Black Lightning's unnumbered Earth, and Earth 3, Jay Garrick's world) and that Earth 2 was destroyed (and it's number re-assigned to Stargirl).
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The obvious answer for a Supergirl can come Byrne’s era.
She arrived in a pod and her genetics were altered so she would closely resemble the folks where she landed. And then have her land in South America.
I mean, if Krypton can have white people, there is no reason why the planet can't have people with other skin colours. Maybe Allura had tan skin in this universe. Or if this character is the daughter of Clark and Lois then maybe one of them was non white.
It's canon that old-school Krypton had multiple ethnic groups among the Kryptonians. Some of these were defined in ways that don't exist IRL, but only some of them.
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On this depiction there's Vathlo, and well.... none of the other locations in this is explicitly defined by the skin color of who lives there. But these are super short descriptions and it does define some of them by cultures. There's not much about why Erkol and Xan went to war in here. But other books talked about how it was due to... physical differences. Yeah.. one group of Kryptonians had odd features because they were kinda like Fallout mutants. Also Erkol was.... kinda run by people who were militant jerks. IIRC they also went to war with Kryptonoplis at some point.
https://wegotthiscovered.com/movies/...s-earth-flash/
I dunno if this is an old rumor, though the article is fairly new. Its saying that Sasha Calle's Supergirl is from the same earth/timeline as Michael Keaton's Batman. And based on the description of her origin story, it seems like she's basically playing the same role as Flashpoint Superman. And that when the timeline/universe is fixed, she's gonna be hanging around, along with Keaton's Batman.
This makes me even more curious about the movie, which is supposedly based on Flashpoint but also involves the Multiverse. Is Calle's Supergirl from the same earth as Keaton's Batman? Or are they both part of the ''Flashpoint'' timeline that Barry creates when he tries to save his mom? Is Keaton playing Batman from the same universe/continuity as the two Burton films, or is this a different take that superficially resembles his old version of the character?
I kinda like the idea of the Burton films living in their own bubble, and not being a universe where Superman or Supergirl exists. Though, if this Supergirl came to earth only about 20 or so years ago...then yeah, its well after the timeframe of the Burton films. And anyway, its all a matter of semantics.
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yeah it's really too early to even try to guess which universe she's from.