Ok, I'll give him that. But we probably can all agree that his Superman was trash?
Ok, I'll give him that. But we probably can all agree that his Superman was trash?
And again someone got something other person said and twisted with his own bias and transformed it into an argument of confirmation for other persons about their preconceived ideas and worldview.
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Man I get what Tomasi was going for but it could not have come at a worst time or been delivered in a worse way. It was like he just copied and pasted Wikipedia and had Lois & Clark just infodumping on all of us. Plus blind patriotism for the armed forces does not suit Lois Lane at all, full stop. It doesn’t suit Clark either but I get that’s probably a lost cause at this point. Add in terrible filler art and this is where the run fell off hard for me, and never recovered until the final Bizarro arc. Tomasi kept trying to recreate the magic of that fairground issue, but he had Jorge Jimenez for that, that guy can make anything look damn good, and it helped elevate the issue. The other stuff, this vacation, and the issue where Superman took some kids into space, that all felt like clumsy attempts to bottle lightning again.
I have friends in the military and I hope I don’t wind up like some of the nut jobs I’ve seen ranting about how everyone in the armed forces kills babies or what not, especially since so many guys I know who joined up did so because they were poor and needed a way out of poverty, or were looking for purpose and the military provided. However, I’m pretty sure that issue came out in 2017, and man was I not in the mood for “America F*** Yeah!” in any shape or form after 2016. Didn’t help that it took forever for the filler to end either.
Hah some people will, a few here. But as much I think Tomasi’s run is overrated (which is not the same as thinking it’s bad though there are certainly terrible arcs), I still like many arcs in his run. He used classic Superman Rogues like Manchester Black, and that always gets kudos from me. Jurgens may have created Jon, but for better or worse, Tomasi was the one who made the kid stick. His biggest success as a writer was helping to reestablish the Superfamily and making Jon stick. His biggest failure was that he whiffed it on Multiplicity and showed he couldn’t do big stakes storytelling, and that he couldn’t keep up with the double shipping. Both King and Williamson had plenty of ideas for their guys, but Tomasi clearly struggled with what to do with Superman and needed to be bailed out often with filler.
Yeah, odd as it is for someone like me who will go to bat for the New 52, by the end of the New 52 I was out. I hated New 52 Truth and was so damn sick of the crossovers, so I left. Only came back when I heard the old Superman was back with a kid because I wanted to see what was up and I remembered liking Tomasi’s stuff in the past. Looking back now, I really overrated the run at the time, was very defensive of it when people complained it was boring at points. Funny to remember now given how I feel about it, but I’m still seriously considering getting the Rebirth Omnibus to put alongside my Morrison Action. For all his flaws, Tomasi’s issue 45 was the best “ending” for a Superman run since Morrison Action imo, although I can’t decide if I liked Bendis’ final Superman issue more.
Yeah I know that guy. He’s got some interesting critiques and analyses, but his hateboner for certain topics causes him to project his own feelings about certain works into the creators behind them. Funny to see Khouri and Jimenez outright contradict him though.
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So the trump note wasn't even a superman group mandate, tbh I still don't know what that could have referred to.
That does kind of make me wonder about Lois' opinion about the armed forces.
Like, yeah, she's a cynic of the government and politicians and has a complicated relationship with her dad because of his position and how that made him behave but she was still an army brat and probably had a lot of interaction with people in the service as a kid.
Kinda got me wanting to write a blog post about this but how I see it:
-She sympathizes with a lot of individual soldiers while detesting the military-industrial complex as a whole and the people who profit from it
-She knows there’s true blue patriots, people who are just joining up for adventure, or for the benefits, or to escape situations at home, and power tripping psychos all working there (Corbyn is an example of the first group that became the last in my interpretation of him)
-She knows the government frequently screws the grunts over while using patriotism as a shield
-She never is satisfied with “it’s a matter of national security” as an answer and will always dig into specifics
-She’d teach Jon about the complete history of America in wars, both the “good” and the “bad” that they don’t tell you about in schools, which is why the sanitized version Tomasi went with felt untrue to me
That’s my take
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You can kind of piece together what happened based on interviews Johns & Didio have given separately about the subject.
Essentially they hit a wall with New 52/DCYou, which Didio acknowledges was due to not having long-term goals or plans with those initiatives. Whether Didio was forced to go to Johns or did so on his own, Johns was then tasked to "fix" things with his Rebirth special as well as that subsequent initiative. But Didio felt that Rebirth was a nostalgia-grab, not a long-term solution, and immediately sought to undermine it. That's why all of it, including Superwoman and the other Rebirth titles, fell apart a year or less later.
As far as the topic at hand...I forgot there was a Superwoman book by Phil Jiminez to be honest. That's how far it escaped my mind. I would say the only aspect of the title that I can recall is the bait-and-switch with Lois & Lana. Otherwise I really don't remember any of it despite the fact that I'm pretty confident I read it.