Last Read: Aquaman & The Flash: Voidsong
Monthly Pull List: Birds of Prey, Daredevil, Geiger, Green Arrow, Justice Ducks, Justice Society of America, Negaduck, Nightwing, Phantom Road, Shazam!, Space Ghost, Suicide Squad: Dream Team, Thundercats, Titans
the transformers films were objectively bad films, consistently panned critically and mostly a joke culturally but it made money because it's just a dumb big movie that you can take the family to. sales =/= quality, especially in a medium like comics where half of the people reading these books only do so to complain about the book.
THE SIGNAL (Duke Thomas) is DC's secret shonen protagonist so I made him a fandom wiki
also, check out "The Signal Tape" a Duke Thomas fan project.
currently following:
- DC: Red Hood: The Hill
- Marvel: TBD
- Manga (Shonen/Seinen): One Piece, My Hero, Dandadan, Jujutsu Kaisen, Kaiju No. 8, Reincarnation of The Veteran Soldier, Oblivion Rouge, ORDEAL, The Breaker: Eternal Force
"power does not corrupt, power always reveals."
The complete formula would be sales =/= quality =/= enjoyment
Sales can come from convincing advertising before people were sure what it's about
The enjoyment you can only judge after already paying them, assuming people don't pirate it of course
Quality doesn't relate to enjoyment because some people like to watch a trainwreck. Something critically acclaimed can be considered boring or overrated because people base their rating on how much they enjoy it.
I never said sales = higher quality. I said quality is subjective. A lot of people like those Transformers movies or they wouldn't have kept being made. A lot of people think they're good movies. Are they right or wrong? That's not for me to say.
There are a number of Academy Award-winning movies the general public haven't enjoyed. Does that automatically mean that they are all wrong because critics praised them?
That idea doesn't really hold in the medium of comics. it could be said about the first issue, sure. Buy by issue 7 or 8 you know full well what you are getting with those comics.
Last Read: Aquaman & The Flash: Voidsong
Monthly Pull List: Birds of Prey, Daredevil, Geiger, Green Arrow, Justice Ducks, Justice Society of America, Negaduck, Nightwing, Phantom Road, Shazam!, Space Ghost, Suicide Squad: Dream Team, Thundercats, Titans
Sadly I think Marvel has the best quality writers right now.
I guess it would be Bendis and Tyrion but...
Bendis's Legion of super heroes is horrendously awful
Tyrion did a good job on JLD, but I'm not sold on him yet....his Batman run has been lackluster
I would agree with you on Williamson, his Flash run was great.
I'm also a big fan of Vendetti. Both his Green Lantern and Hawkman runs were fantastic in my opinion.
An excellent choice.
I wish it were Tom King or Priest but it won’t be either of them. I think DC is thinking Williamson but I would love it if it were Ridley. His Other History has been especially great. I’d like to see him write as much as possible. And I think Williamson is only fair to middling. I’ve liked some stuff he’s written but I haven’t come close to loving any of it. He would be an uninspired choice.
But the first issue count, and if you read trades, the whole arc counts. Also, some people like to complete buying the arc and only stop after the story ends, because who knows maybe it gets better or there's a twist and I'm wrong about the setup since the story isn't finished yet.
If looking at quality my premier team for last two years was Morrison/Sharp. Morrison is supposedly done with monthlies, but Sharp is doing at least 6 more issues for DC so he is my go to artist this year as well.
When it comes to "big picture" I guess that it is, unfortunately, Tynion and Williamson. As for art it is probably Jiminez.
Aquaman did well very well with Johns, outsold every Marvel issue at one point and even did better than certain A-List DC characters. That run was a commercial and critical success.
With Parker Aquaman still had very good sales and had interest from people.
Abnett's run started out well it was real fun, but he got embroiled in a never ending arc that took 36issues to get a a conclusion. He stretched that arc beyond reason, just to accommodate his Mera solo. He had some good ideas mind it, brought back some characters, but thats that. He rehashed the Arthur being dethroned, came up with Mera as queen, a huge contradiction, when for most of his run he wrote her on how much she hated Atlantis and viceversa, and in two panels she likes to become Queen. I repeat 36 issues to end an arc became boring and tiring and the promise on which his run started, never came near to be fulfilled.
Even among Aquafans in a recent poll on Aquaverse he came last and only one arc of his run made it to the best arcs of the last decade, it also placed last. TBH he had to deal with lots of editorial vetoes. But at the end of his run unlike Johns and Parker, he left a book in a dead end.
Runs are the reasons for not selling not the characters.
Last edited by Goldrake; 02-24-2021 at 08:07 AM.
By the time the trade comes out, the series is over and there is a general consensus on if it is good or not. And even then opinion still varies. Heroes in Crisis was generally hated by the time it was done but it still sold well in trades. So, again, quality is subjective.
Also, if you read 1-2 issues of a comic and hate it, but continue to buy the other 5-6 issues out of some sense of completion, that says more about the buyer than the quality of what they are buying.
Last Read: Aquaman & The Flash: Voidsong
Monthly Pull List: Birds of Prey, Daredevil, Geiger, Green Arrow, Justice Ducks, Justice Society of America, Negaduck, Nightwing, Phantom Road, Shazam!, Space Ghost, Suicide Squad: Dream Team, Thundercats, Titans