Next Batman: Second Son Digital Series Discussion and Spoilers

[The Cool Thatguy]

They are really villifying Lucius in this book, honestly wonder how he even gets back in a good light.

I think people understand a father crossing certain lines to protect their son

[prepmaster]

I think people understand a father crossing certain lines to protect their son

Covering your son for a crime while helping Batman as a crime fighter? Dont you see the contradiction within the character?

Dont defend this kind of character assassination.

[lemonpeace]

Covering your son for a crime while helping Batman as a crime fighter? Dont you see the contradiction within the character?

Dont defend this kind of character assassination.

Batman has worked with literal murderers...

if you can't see the reasoning in a father trying to protect his son by any means necessary, that seems more like a you problem. that's not character assassination, it's realism in narrative, let's dial it back.

[prepmaster]

Batman has worked with literal murderers...

if you can't see the reasoning in a father trying to protect his son by any means necessary, that seems more like a you problem. that's not character assassination, it's realism in narrative, let's dial it back.

Batman wants to stop them from murdering more people or help himself out of a hard situation.

Even when his adopted son Jason crosses the line, Batman will come for him. Thats who Batman is. The line is why Batman vs Red Hood exists. Once you kill someone for a non self defense purpose, Batman sees you being like the criminal that shot his parents. Its why Batman is very driven to fight against villains.

If Batman can work with murderers casually like you said, there is no such thing as Batman vs Red Hood.

Lucius Fox is a thief who steals Bruce's fortune and an accomplice with his criminal son. His son Jace is a thief who steals Batman symbol instead of serving prison sentence. You feel guilty yet avoid punishment from the law. Guilt complex my ass. What a thieving, traitorous family.

[Vordan]

They are really villifying Lucius in this book, honestly wonder how he even gets back in a good light.

He seems on track to becoming a villain/antagonist, although moreso for Jace than for Bruce.

[The Cool Thatguy]

Covering your son for a crime while helping Batman as a crime fighter? Dont you see the contradiction within the character?

Dont defend this kind of character assassination.

You act like Damien hasn't killed people before, and Bruce was like "Eh, again?"

And really, helping his boss break the law and helping his son break the law aren't contradictions at all. They compliment each other very nicely, actually.

As far as he goes for Bruce, he wouldn't go just as far fro his son?

[thwhtGuardian]

Batman wants to stop them from murdering more people or help himself out of a hard situation.

Even when his adopted son Jason crosses the line, Batman will come for him. Thats who Batman is. The line is why Batman vs Red Hood exists. Once you kill someone for a non self defense purpose, Batman sees you being like the criminal that shot his parents. Its why Batman is very driven to fight against villains.

If Batman can work with murderers casually like you said, there is no such thing as Batman vs Red Hood.

Lucius Fox is a thief who steals Bruce's fortune and an accomplice with his criminal son. His son Jace is a thief who steals Batman symbol instead of serving prison sentence. You feel guilty yet avoid punishment from the law. Guilt complex my ass. What a thieving, traitorous family.

You seem to be taking this really personally...you know this is a fictional story, right?

[Superboy-Prime]

Batman wants to stop them from murdering more people or help himself out of a hard situation.

Even when his adopted son Jason crosses the line, Batman will come for him. Thats who Batman is. The line is why Batman vs Red Hood exists. Once you kill someone for a non self defense purpose, Batman sees you being like the criminal that shot his parents. Its why Batman is very driven to fight against villains.

If Batman can work with murderers casually like you said, there is no such thing as Batman vs Red Hood.

Lucius Fox is a thief who steals Bruce's fortune and an accomplice with his criminal son. His son Jace is a thief who steals Batman symbol instead of serving prison sentence. You feel guilty yet avoid punishment from the law. Guilt complex my ass. What a thieving, traitorous family.

Just say what you really want to say, dude, we all know what your real problem is. You're mad that you didn't get the Fortnite/Batman code!

[The Cool Thatguy]

I say this as a compliment to the story, and indictment against most of the current Bat-line, but it was nice to see a grounded, emotional story that didn't involve some over the top character trying to be the next big thing.

The story was gray, human and engaging. Not noir by any stretch, but it was a nice change from the superhero only Batman

[marvelprince]

I say this as a compliment to the story, and indictment against most of the current Bat-line, but it was nice to see a grounded, emotional story that didn't involve some over the top character trying to be the next big thing.

The story was gray, human and engaging. Not noir by any stretch, but it was a nice change from the superhero only Batman

Ditto. Really appreciate the storytelling in this. It’s deeper than just “here’s a new guy who’s Batman now”. It’s telling the kind of stories that only a character not named Bruce Wayne could tell in a very different way than most of the current line.

[Superboy-Prime]

Ditto. Really appreciate the storytelling in this. It’s deeper than just “here’s a new guy who’s Batman now”. It’s telling the kind of stories that only a character not named Bruce Wayne could tell in a very different way than most of the current line.

I think a ton of people hate the slower storytelling. Personally, I prefer Bat-Mite to be the Next Batman, he's the only one who understands the symbol.

[The Cool Thatguy]

I think a ton of people hate the slower storytelling. Personally, I prefer Bat-Mite to be the Next Batman, he's the only one who understands the symbol.

The symbol that violates due process and breaks the law on a daily basis?

[Frontier]

The symbol that violates due process and breaks the law on a daily basis?

Within reason .

[Superboy-Prime]

The symbol that violates due process and breaks the law on a daily basis?

Yes. And to clarify, Second Son gets a lot of flack because it's slower paced. It doesn't deserve it.

[Vordan]

I think a ton of people hate the slower storytelling. Personally, I prefer Bat-Mite to be the Next Batman, he's the only one who understands the symbol.

I was enjoying it but I have to admit until the last two issues I was thinking there wasn’t really many interesting ideas baked into Jace. He just seemed like a decent if distant guy and Batman needs some kind of emotional trauma/injustice to work. Having Jace be the cause of said injustice instead of the recipient really works for me. I was expecting a cliche like “his war buddies died on a mission” or something similar but this is waaay more interesting.